Before Obama: Gas was $1.84 a gallon in 2008

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Re: Before Obama: Gas was $1.84 a gallon in 2008

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at 2008.05.01 08:45:44 (viewtopic.php?p=150904#p150904) ludwigm wrote:In Switzerland, during WWII : "This war is terrible! There are weeks when we couldn't buy lemon!"

Is one dollar per litre a big price? In Europe, the average is about 1.8$/lit, for years. ( this is about 8$ if I count it in the stupid gallon - hehe ). In Hungary, we are working as hard as anybody in the other parts of the world, and our average incoming is 1/5 - 1/6 of West Europe or USA.
On the basis of these numbers, WE should whine.


As of today:
- the gas is 1,95 USD/litre (7,4 USD/gallon - as far as I know...)
- the 1/5 - 1/6 incoming is really 1/8

... and (I know this is of another thread...) we should applaud for Your constitution...

... and (according to bcspaces and droopies, on a more other thread, too) WE ourselves had chosen to be poor...
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The United States has oil on government controlled land. Europe has none.
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Nice fiction there bcspace, but here are the facts. A detailed analysis of the up and down gasoline prices for the year 2008: http://www.treehugger.com/corporate-res ... eview.html

And here is Fox News back in 2008 insisting to its audience that the President has absolutely no control over gasoline prices. http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/03/05 ... 008/157979

Too funny. They've been saying exactly the opposite ever since Obama has been in office.
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MeDotOrg wrote:Image

Gasoline prices dropped when the economy tanked.


Exactly. But even more interesting is that the prices tanked during the month Obama was elected President. From November 2008 to Jan 2009 Bush was just a stand in guy until the formal inauguration process, while the markets already knew who'd be in charge of the economy for the next four years.
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I was in Japan back in March and April. As I watched the local news, I found it odd how ignorant they were about their high gasoline prices, which had been going up along with prices in the rest of the world. They seemed to not even know that it was Obama's fault. Hell, these silly uninformed people didn't even mention his role as they discussed the various causes.

These idiotic foreigners are not nearly as smart as the American Right, who know that all the oil produced in (or even pipelined through) the United States can only be sold in the United States, because we don't allow it to be sold to the highest bidder in the world market. Therefore, more oil drillin' here means lower prices here. It's simple math that any redneck can understand. Drill baby drill!

To the extent that we right-thinking Americans even acknowledge that other countries exist, we know that any increases in their fuel prices are purely coincidental. Or because of their Socialism.
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The most amusing part of the article for me was how incensed some of the commenters were that so many of the people buying the cheap gas said they are not Romney supporters, but were just there to save money.

One person called these consumers "greedy," and that he hopes "Romney wins and cuts them off the government dole forever." Another announced a personal boycott of the gas station that went along with the Romney PAC stunt, because the owner went out of his way to say he wasn't affiliated with the PAC or the Romney campaign.

Hilarious stuff. Thanks for the entertainment, Space.
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krose wrote:These idiotic foreigners are not nearly as smart as the American Right, who know that all the oil produced in (or even pipelined through) the United States can only be sold in the United States, because we don't allow it to be sold to the highest bidder in the world market. Therefore, more oil drillin' here means lower prices here. It's simple math that any redneck can understand. Drill baby drill!


My favorite part about this trope on the Right is that it runs counter to the premise of capitalism. If oil companies can produce barely enough oil to stay ahead of demand while making great profits why would they release more oil onto the market and cheapen their product? Why decrease profits on a finite resource? Because it's good for the consumer? Screw the consumer when you have them over a barrel! Altruism is for socialists and limp wrist liberals amirite?
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beastie wrote:The fact that there are a bunch of idiots in this country who think the president can control gas prices is part of the reason we're in the trouble we are now in.

Considering that, back in 2008, Obama was one of those idiots who thought he could control gas prices, truer words were never spoken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka_tjPLJwVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9hLMsAw28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzj4GyeBaTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHN9bLCgF7k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdvW2zco-y8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMZps9qs_qM
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Re: Before Obama: Gas was $1.84 a gallon in 2008

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MsJack wrote:
beastie wrote:The fact that there are a bunch of idiots in this country who think the president can control gas prices is part of the reason we're in the trouble we are now in.

Considering that, back in 2008, Obama was one of those idiots who thought he could control gas prices, truer words were never spoken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka_tjPLJwVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9hLMsAw28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzj4GyeBaTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHN9bLCgF7k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdvW2zco-y8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMZps9qs_qM



No he didn't. At least not in that first video, which is about beco.ing energy independent. My phone isn't playing the others for some reason.
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Kevin Graham wrote:

No he didn't. At least not in that first video, which is about beco.ing energy independent. My phone isn't playing the others for some reason.


I listened to all of them. None of them claim that Obama will control gas prices. They talk about the subsidies gas companies get from the gov't and alternative energy. They talk about the money big oil invested in McCain. The third one is too short to draw any conclusions as to its point.
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