Obamacare: Middle Class Search and Destroy

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_Droopy
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Re: Obamacare: Middle Class Search and Destroy

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Given that you are privy to all of Obama's ideological influences, why is it that neither Romney nor Ryan warned us that Obama was a revolutionary Marxist?


Because Romney and Ryan are establishment Republicans who's party elites have no desire or intention of doing so (and are probably, truth be told, uninterested in whether he is or not). Stanley Kurtz did a massive amount of careful research on Obama's history and intellectual background, which was easily available to anyone who wished to think and critique for himself. We also now have four years of his policies, following closely the patterns discerned in his intellectual patrimony, as well as new information about that past. His hard left mentality and ideological comittments have never been arguable, unless one simply wishes to be obtuse (or deceptive).

Wouldn't that be their duty as freedom-loving, God-fearing Americans?


Yes.

Don't they love this country as much as you do?


I'm sure they do. I'm also sure their as in denial and intellectually as fuzzy on the issue as most liberals (the authentic Left, however, knows in whom it has trusted).

How does Joe Biden fit into the picture? Is he a revolutionary Marxist or just a dupe? Are all the members of the Democratic Party Revolutionary Marxists and in on the conspiracy?


Take the 'u' in dupe, and change it to an 'o,' and you have Joe Biden. He's a man of the Left, to be sure, but Biden is much more just a Machiavellian partisan hack looking after his own power and his own party. I don't think he's frankly intelligent enough to be an ideologue.

And, most importantly, is the C.I.A. secretly curtailing the production of tin foil so that Americans won't be able to make enough hats to prevent the Government from reading their thoughts?


They may have to eventually ration the stuff, as most of it has been going to Kevin Graham for so long that desperate housewives may have to substitute organic hemp foil this year for a wrapping to keep the murdered turkey moist and juicy as its naked, violated body is cooked for the pleasure of its specieist oppressors.

Of course, that turkey may have a bit of a "kick," which liberals will enjoy more than the spiked eggnog.
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Re: Obamacare: Middle Class Search and Destroy

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Hi Droops,

You really don't know what you are talking about.

Here's some help: HSA for Dummies

From the link, which by the way helps explain why your article called those provisions of the ACA a "tax" -

How Does It Work?
HSA contributions are deposited in an FDIC-insured special interest-earning account, which you can draw from at any time. HSA funds can be used for eligible expenses until the deductible has been met. Then the individual's insurance will begin coverage. Unused money can stay in the account or be placed in an investment account that offers competitive interest rates, low fees and a variety of options.

An HSA can help you save in three ways. First, as you add funds into your account, your contributions reduce your annual taxable income. Second, the funds you withdraw to pay for qualified medical expenses remain untaxed. Third, you save again when funds in your HSA accounts earn interest tax free.


If you believe this -
Droopy wrote:The state has no business being in the healthcare business, constitutionally or as a matter of any demonstrated competence.


- then you should be against HSA'a in general. You should be arguing people should be putting their money in savings accounts for rainy day healthcare-related expenses and keeping tax "loopholes" (to use a word you might recognize your candidate used a lot when saying he would keep tax rates low but still increase revenue - something being repeated by our friends in the Republican House, by the way.), out of the equation entirely.

It's political spin, Droops. If you were a real conservative you would be complaining the provisions in the ACA don't go far enough, not complaining that they occur at all.
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