All your kids belong to us

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_Droopy
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EAllusion wrote:The comments section on that link is interesting. It's amazing how many people think of children as their property to do with as they please. Even the official comment can't understand the notion outside of property and so imagines her as advocating that children be viewed as public property. We're stewards of children, not their owners.

She's arguing that society collectively has responsibility for ensuring the well-being of children and their rearing into responsible adults. Most people people agree with this notion to some extent, which is why we have laws that allow the state to remove children from abusive environments, but people differ on how far parental authority extends and where social responsibility begins. If I were to guess, I suspect she goes too far compared to my views, but your link is filled with idiots who can only think, "I own my child, not you!"


I always knew that your were a fascist/socialist deep down in your pragmatic secular humanist heart, and that you would be able to defend and rehabilitate, in classic Grahamesque fashion, this little totalitarian Morlock, no matter how much torture and flogging of your own mind and the minds of your readers you had to do to make it look believable, and you did it without flinching too.

This past few months at MDB has been a busy time for the ripping off of masks like no time in its past history.

May it continue unabated.
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_Brackite
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Droopy wrote:
I always knew that your were a fascist/socialist deep down in your pragmatic secular humanist heart, and that you would be able to defend and rehabilitate, in classic Grahamesque fashion, this little totalitarian Morlock, no matter how much torture and flogging of your own mind and the minds of your readers you had to do to make it look believable, and you did it without flinching too.




Well, You need to convert EAllusion to become a Conservative then Droopy.

by the way, I do not have any kids.
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Droopy wrote:I always knew that your were a fascist/socialist deep down in your pragmatic secular humanist heart, and that you would be able to defend and rehabilitate, in classic Grahamesque fashion, this little totalitarian Morlock, no matter how much torture and flogging of your own mind and the minds of your readers you had to do to make it look believable, and you did it without flinching too.

This past few months at MDB has been a busy time for the ripping off of masks like no time in its past history.

May it continue unabated.
Rejecting the belief that children are the property of their parents to do with as they please is fascism. In other Droopy news, war is peace and slavery is freedom.
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ajax18 wrote:
Ajax refuses to recognize that human beings live in interdependent groups


I think it's a bad deal.


Why don't you talk to some of those people on disability you disdain to find out what a real bad deal looks like.
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I always knew that your were a fascist/socialist deep down in your pragmatic secular humanist heart, and that you would be able to defend and rehabilitate, in classic Grahamesque fashion, this little totalitarian Morlock, no matter how much torture and flogging of your own mind and the minds of your readers you had to do to make it look believable, and you did it without flinching too.

This past few months at MDB has been a busy time for the ripping off of masks like no time in its past history.

May it continue unabated.


+100, well said Droopy
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Ajax and Droopy--

Kudos from opposing the leftist fascist (I know!) EAllusion in his ridiculous claim that parents are custodians of children, not property owners! Since you both agree that children are their parents' chattels, I'm sure you will naturally agree that parents have the right to sell their children in our free market system.

The only alternative is totalitarianism.
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EAllusion wrote:
Droopy wrote:I always knew that your were a fascist/socialist deep down in your pragmatic secular humanist heart, and that you would be able to defend and rehabilitate, in classic Grahamesque fashion, this little totalitarian Morlock, no matter how much torture and flogging of your own mind and the minds of your readers you had to do to make it look believable, and you did it without flinching too.

This past few months at MDB has been a busy time for the ripping off of masks like no time in its past history.

May it continue unabated.
Rejecting the belief that children are the property of their parents to do with as they please is fascism. In other Droopy news, war is peace and slavery is freedom.


The person you are defending is a quasi-totalitarian leftist and her stated beliefs had nothing to do with the benign, mushy pap you ascribe to her. Secondly, that "children are the property of their parents to do with as they please" were no part of Perry's Maoesque collectivist diatribe.
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Apparently I'm not the only person who found Perry's message very disturbing. John Osterlund just dedicated his radio show to it.
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ajax18 wrote:Apparently I'm not the only person who found Perry's message very disturbing. John Osterlund just dedicated his radio show to it.


No doubt he distorted her meaning as much as you and droopy did.
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