'Do You Believe in Dinosaurs?'

[_cinepro]

The jury is still out on Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp

I'm not sure why that's so hard to believe. There are even LDS-based private schools that might venture into this brand of "science":

http://www.zionsacademy.com/zionsacadem ... iculum.php

Science

Intrinsic value:Learning how to search the scriptures
(Six volumes)

Each of the Science books directs the student to answer two questions:

"How God Created" a particular facet of the creation, and "Why God Created" His creations. The "HOW" question is answered as students research academic reference books from the library, encyclopedias, or internet resources, etc., related to that subject.

The "WHY" question leads the students to study the scriptures of their choice to discover testimony-building answers from God’s revealed word. In this way students develop the talent of "learning how to search the scriptures," as well as using additional reference books to find their answers.

"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me." (John 5:39)

This one too (read the article "I'm no Monkey's Brother" linked from this page):

http://www.liahonaeducation.com/view/science_2.aspx

[_Molok]

Here's the description for a 5th grade science book:

http://www.abeka.com/ABekaOnline/BookDe ... sbn=135151

This text leads students from the known to the unknown by teaching important science concepts within the context of things they see and know. The aim is to help students understand basic principles of science rather than merely teach them science vocabulary. The world is presented as the creation of God and glorifies Him as its Sustainer and Upholder. The text introduces great scientists and naturalists who believed in the biblical account of Creation, and where appropriate, it refutes the materialist’s faith in evolution. Students learn about plants, animals, matter, energy, light, minerals, and more. Review questions, activites, and demonstrations make this a thoroughly teachable text.

[_ludwigm]

I'm not sure why that's so hard to believe.

You know, we, atheists are truly desperate (and gullible).

Other people - the religious ones - are not that gullible, they don't believe that creationists are able to teach what they proclaim from the house-top.

that "quiz" is an obvious hoax...more proof of how desperate (and gullible) atheists truly are...

[_subgenius]

I can't say if this specific story is legit, but there are no shortage of fundamentalist schools that teach just this kind of material. I should know, I went to one of them for a while.

Students are admitted to college on the basis of their SAT or ACT, or even GED, scores. When students have attended accredited High Schools, their course GPA must be submitted along with their ACT/SAT score. If both are high enough, the student is admitted. However, if students have not attended accredited schools, they are admitted as “Non-Traditional Students,” based on their test scores. Most every college in the US will accept non-traditional students (including home schooled). The United States Department of Education lacks direct plenary authority to regulate schools, and degrees/diplomas. See also higher education act of 1965.

So, typically you will see religious schools, and home schooling, more focused on ACT/SAT, religion, and experience...whereas public schools are more focused on the requirements for "accreditation". I believe this comparison to be a fascinating aspect of our education system....and...i believe that a serious debate towards the understanding of that system is looming as we see the rapid increase of non-traditional students emerging (especially home schooled). Currently most every college is heavily biased for "accreditation"..based solely on that lowest common denominator concept. A brief example..how confident are you that the student with a 4.0 GPA from any one "accredited" high school is equivalent to any other "accredited" high school student with a 4.0 GPA? (is a 4.0 really the same in Mississippi as in Rhode Island?)

is this strategy of aiming for accreditation performing appropriately when applied in practice?...given some of the serious scandals we have seen in Atlanta with the "testing", i am skeptical.


Point being, living free and enjoying the fruits of liberty ain't for everyone.

[_subgenius]

I'm not sure why that's so hard to believe.

You know, we, atheists are truly desperate (and gullible).

Other people - the religious ones - are not that gullible, they don't believe that creationists are able to teach what they proclaim from the house-top.

that "quiz" is an obvious hoax...more proof of how desperate (and gullible) atheists truly are...

i never claimed that creationists did not teach certain things or not other things, nor did i say anything about my belief for what creationist are able to teach.......i simply stated that the given example from the OP seemed likely a hoax - for the stated reasons.

Once again, we see atheists seeing things that are really not there.... the inevitable consequence of being gullible and desperate.

[_ludwigm]

i simply stated that the given example from the OP seemed likely a hoax

Yes, in Hungary, Germany or Netherlands - to say only three examples - everybody would say no, this didn't and can not happen.

Unfortunately (even You are not able to detect) in US this is not surprising, not improbable.
I am sorry to say it...

[_bcspace]

Why do I need to track anything?

That's the only way to know, scientifically, if evolution was directed or not. In terms of actual inheritance, you could have an atom here, an atom there. In terms of natural selection, you have to account also for environmental effects; again, atom here an atom there or a meteor strike, or some cool weather one day, etc.

The job got done, didn't it?

By who or what?

[_Tarski]

By who or what?

Umm, no one?

You still don't get my point?

Evolution is a natural process that occurs without intervention by any intelligence. If not then the theory explains nothing.
Evolution is what came before intelligence and it is what ultimately explains intelligence.

BCSpace is like the aboriginal tribeman who having learned how combustion engines work returns to his tribe-- whose members have for years believed that cars contain motion demons-- and explains to them the entire theory of combustion engines, drive shafts, power trains and so on and then ends the lesson with "and so that's how the demons do it you see". <<---laughter goes here.

You will have gotten the point when you see why that is funny.

[_cinepro]

Once again, we see atheists seeing things that are really not there.... the inevitable consequence of being gullible and desperate.

But aren't the atheists responding to a picture of test, which is something that is "there"? Sure, it might be a fake, but even the best theists can be fooled by fakes.

[_bcspace]

By who or what?

Umm, no one?

That's your opinion

You still don't get my point?

Of course I do. Problem is, it's untenable....

Evolution is a natural process that occurs without intervention by any intelligence. If not then the theory explains nothing.

The theory itself implies no such thing. Again, you're back to keeping track of all particles in the universe for all time; for not only evolution itself, but the environmental factors that also drive natural selection.

Evolution is what came before intelligence and it is what ultimately explains intelligence.

I can handle that in the case of the first Gods. But I can also handle that now, intelligence controls evolution.