Robert Gates Defends Obama Military Response To Benghazi

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ajax18 wrote:http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/10/24/flashback-secstate-clinton-blamed-youtube-video-with-the-benghazi-victims-bodies-behind-her/

On Sept. 14, 2012, three days after the assault at Benghazi, President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton spoke at the transfer of remains ceremony to honor the four Americans killed. The White House published video of their remarks.

After lauding the four slain Americans, Clinton said “This has been a difficult week for the State Department and for our country. We’ve seen the heavy assault on our post in Benghazi that took the lives of those brave men. We’ve seen rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful internet video that we had nothing to do with. It is hard for the American people to make sense of that because it is senseless, and it is totally unacceptable
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Emails released late Tuesday provide evidence that, contrary to Clinton’s remarks on 9-14, on the evening of 9-11 and just two hours into the attack, Clinton had been made aware that terrorist group Ansar al-Sharia was claiming responsibility for the attack. The United States had a drone or maybe multiple drones overhead, feeding video of the battle back to the State Department and the White House Situation Room. That video allowed members of the administration to monitor the battle in real time.

While President Obama did not blame the YouTube video during his remarks at the transfer of remains ceremony, he stood behind Clinton during her remarks, which he surely read and approved beforehand. He did not describe the assault as a terrorist attack. He did turn some of his remarks toward the families of the fallen: “To you — their families and colleagues — to all Americans, know this: Their sacrifice will never be forgotten. We will bring to justice those who took them from us. We will stand fast against the violence on our diplomatic missions. We will continue to do everything in our power to protect Americans serving overseas, whether that means increasing security at our diplomatic posts, working with host countries, which have an obligation to provide security, and making it clear that justice will come to those who harm Americans.”

Weeks later Americans learned that Ambassador Stevens and security officers in Libya had repeatedly asked for increased security, and had been repeatedly turned down by the State Department in Washington. The prime suspect remains at large, and feels free enough to grant an interview with the New York Times.


So, you just made up a quote because that's what you guys do. And it's perfectly okay that you do. I got it.

The actual Clinton quote addresses both the attack at Benghazi and at other locations. It's 100% accurate, and does not say that the makers of THE VIDEO would be punished. You just made that up. Obama doesn't say that either.

It doesn't matter what either had said -- the rightwing clownshow would be critical no matter what.

More and more clowning -- that's all we get from the right these days.
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So, you just made up a quote because that's what you guys do.


I did not make it up. I just can't find the transcript from the interview with the victims families. You wouldn't believe it if I were able to find it anyway.
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ajax18 wrote:
So, you just made up a quote because that's what you guys do.


I did not make it up. I just can't find the transcript from the interview with the victims families. You wouldn't believe it if I were able to find it anyway.


Ah, the old missing transcript dodge.

Look, what you purported to quote is an actual quote from statements made by Clinton in the presence of the families, with a deliberate change made to make it sound as if Clinton was talking about going after the video makers instead of the murderers. That's the same sleazy crap we get from the right wing clown show day after day after day...

Today, it's Issa claiming you can fly from D.C. to Benghazi in 7 hours on commercial flights, so there must have been time to get the military to Benghazi to save the day. Actually, it's 27. I think we need an investigation into the lying crap that Issa spouts on behalf of the Congress every day.
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According to the victims families as interviewed on Fox News that is exactly what Hillary told them. As of now, the only person arrested has been the person who made the video. As far as I know, nobody in Libya who actually did the killing has been found. I'm not sure they even tried very hard.
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ajax18 wrote:According to the victims families as interviewed on Fox News that is exactly what Hillary told them. As of now, the only person arrested has been the person who made the video. As far as I know, nobody in Libya who actually did the killing has been found. I'm not sure they even tried very hard.


That is their spin on what Hillary actually said. You have the "transcript" -- read the actual quote and then read what you wrote.

And, wow, they haven't tracked down the killers after a few months? We knew Osama was behind 911 days after the attack. How long did it take Bush to track him down? Oh, that's right, he didn't.

Clown show.
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Your side needs to get clear on what you think the scandal is. Are you claiming that George W. Bush administration left the government with an invincible State Department, and that the Obama administration came in and made radical changes that all of the sudden put the embassy at risk? Or are you claiming that with one phone call, Obama could have had Special Forces there on the ground that would have saved the four Americans? Or are you claiming that in real time as the events unfolded he knew everything that was going on (including the thoughts and motivations of the attackers), and had the presidential responsibility to instantaneously provide the American public with a detailed, flawless account?


Exactly.

It amazes me how the Right Wing spin machine has changed the argument so many times, because their theory of the week keeps getting shot down. So after a half dozen scandal-constructing myths were created by FOX and company, and then immediately debunked, sometimes by their own sources, what is really left to complain about here?

What's the "scandal" going to be about tomorrow?

Now that the hyped promises from Hannity and Cain about the "whistle-blowers" have now been shown to be irrelevant, they pin their hopes on mystery emails.

Clown show indeed.
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