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[_Jersey Girl]

I am too old to be target of this narrow-spirited vexation.

Okay, I'm going out on the proverbial limb here and say what I think is the truth, as unpopular as that is going to be with the teeming masses here.

You're too stubbornly Hungarian to meet Shades terms and conditions for lifting the restrictions.

And Shades, of course, is stubborn enough to place those conditions for lifting the restrictions on you, and dig in his heels until you say you'll meet his terms.

What else is there to say? I don't know.

I don't know if you did anything so crazy off topic in your posts. I wasn't here for 3 years. But I do know, that whenever Shades has said outright what he needs from you, you refuse to do it.

I got nothing else to say here. My own return was conditional. Does that help anything?

[_Themis]

I am too old to be target of this narrow-spirited vexation.

Okay, I'm going out on the proverbial limb here and say what I think is the truth, as unpopular as that is going to be with the teeming masses here.

You're too stubbornly Hungarian to meet Shades terms and conditions for lifting the restrictions.

And Shades, of course, is stubborn enough to place those conditions for lifting the restrictions on you, and dig in his heels until you say you'll meet his terms.

What else is there to say? I don't know.

I don't know if you did anything so crazy off topic in your posts. I wasn't here for 3 years. But I do know, that whenever Shades has said outright what he needs from you, you refuse to do it.

I got nothing else to say here. My own return was conditional. Does that help anything?

He was never that bad and his posts many times were too subtle for some to get. His posts were entertaining.

[_Jersey Girl]

He was never that bad and his posts many times were too subtle for some to get. His posts were entertaining.

I have seen Shades tell him outright what he needs to do.

So far as I know, he has yet to do it. The last time I saw it mentioned by Shades, I think ludwigm departed the thread. He refuses to do agree to what Shades requires.

[_Jersey Girl]

Here's an example right here.

http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=994151#p994151

He actually copies Shades conditions for discussion.

Don't get me wrong. I have fun with ludwigm.

But the terms have been stated, he already knows what they are, and he refuses to meet them.

It doesn't get simpler than that.

[_Jersey Girl]

Paprika Man,

I know good and well that you're reading here. He's not asking you to humble yourself in public. He's asking you to make a gentleman's agreement and you can do that in PM's.

No one has to SEE what you have said to each other.

So just damned do it, buddy, and get it over with.

Shades placed one condition on my return. I agreed to it. If a stubborn ass Jersey Girl can do that, so can a stubborn ass Hungarian.

Just damned do it. The power to change this is yours.

[_Some Schmo]

If he doesn't have the drive to change, I guess he's just not young and Hungary any more.

[_moksha]

Ludwigm, if only you thought like an Egyptian everything would be kosher.

Have some goulash and a nice bottle of Tokay. Hum your favorite song and perhaps watch a movie. When you are feeling rested and relaxed come on back and tell us all about it.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

If he doesn't have the drive to change, I guess he's just not young and Hungary any more.

Dude. Seriously? Lol.

- Doc

[_Some Schmo]

If he doesn't have the drive to change, I guess he's just not young and Hungary any more.

Dude. Seriously? Lol.

- Doc

OK, I apologize for that. It was probably awful because I wasn't born Pungarian.

[_Ceeboo]

If he doesn't have the drive to change, I guess he's just not young and Hungary any more.

Yeah - Lud can be cool, Bud a pest.