Could You Have Survived this Encounter With Police?

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Re: Could You Have Survived this Encounter With Police?

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Kevin Graham wrote:Another coward with a gun and a badge guns down another innocent victim and gets away with it.

That's the America Republicans want.

The District Attorney who brought the chargers against this former Police officer is a Republican.
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Re: Could You Have Survived this Encounter With Police?

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Res Ipsa wrote:Exactly, Xenophon. Keep in mind that the suspect’s lizard brain was screaming one of three things: fight, flee, or freeze. Doing any of the three would get him killed.

That’s possible, Themis, but I can’t tell. I wonder if there is any sort of regular review of body cam footage to see how officers handle stressful situations before someone ends up dead.



If I were a betting man, I'd guess than instead of him being terrified he is just a psychopath, in the technical sense, who found a job well suited to those traits. I think the video is more likely sadism than fear.
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No, I couldn't have survived it. This is reminiscent of the parent who reprimands their child, spanks them, orders them to stop crying, beats hell out of them and orders them to stop crying again.

The only difference is that Rambo has a weapon trained on the guy.

“I’m not here to be tactical and diplomatic with you. You listen. You obey,” the officer says.

Seriously? What kind of stupid statement is that? If he's not there to be tactical then what the hell is he doing wearing the badge? Oh yeah, "I say jump you say how high". Got it. Power trip to the max.

The stupid crap has the guy trying to crawl with his legs crossed (an impossible physical feat even for a well practiced yogi) and not only that, his intention is to have him crawl past a backpack that could have contained anything including a weapon.

The man is sobbing and begging for his life, he tries to comply with physically impossible and confusing demands, he reaches back for something (an effort to maintain balance, pull up his pants dragging on the floor, or something) which is his final and fatal mistake. The officer reads that as a threat and discharges 5 bullets into the guy.

Rambo should have been convicted and sentenced. End to it.
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EAllusion wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:Exactly, Xenophon. Keep in mind that the suspect’s lizard brain was screaming one of three things: fight, flee, or freeze. Doing any of the three would get him killed.

That’s possible, Themis, but I can’t tell. I wonder if there is any sort of regular review of body cam footage to see how officers handle stressful situations before someone ends up dead.

If I were a betting man, I'd guess than instead of him being terrified he is just a psychopath, in the technical sense, who found a job well suited to those traits. I think the video is more likely sadism than fear.

He doesn't sound terrified. I can't detect terror in his voice. What I hear is more like "I'm going to shoot you. We're going to shoot you. One wrong move and I'm going to shoot you." He's giving him multiple and impossible commands that he cannot obey.

Sets him up. And, shoots him.
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One of the most disturbing videos I have ever seen.

First of all, the fact the man was acquitted is absolutely drop-jaw stunning.

Secondly, the man issuing the orders was a sadistic son of a bitch, the kind of guy that proper psychological screening would prohibit from ever carrying a badge.
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MeDotOrg wrote:One of the most disturbing videos I have ever seen.

First of all, the fact the man was acquitted is absolutely drop-jaw stunning.

Secondly, the man issuing the orders was a sadistic son of a bitch, the kind of guy that proper psychological screening would prohibit from ever carrying a badge.


Yes to all of the above.

I'm not entirely sure that a psych eval would have helped in this case. People can be very good at hiding their true motivations and telling you what you want to hear.
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Re: Could You Have Survived this Encounter With Police?

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Yeah, that was murder.

According to the police report, Brailsford was carrying an AR-15 rifle with the phrase “You’re F—ed” etched into the weapon.


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Res Ipsa wrote:Nonsense, Kevin. This knee jerk reflex to blame the other team is silly and counterproductive.


There is nothing "knee-jerk" about my response. I watched the video and read all the evidence mentioned in three different articles. This man posed zero threat and there was no reason to believe otherwise. The cop had no business being a cop. Period. And if cops have to kill people so they're not so afraid anymore of "potential" threats then they need to find another line of work.
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Kevin Graham wrote:There is nothing "knee-jerk" about my response. I watched the video and read all the evidence mentioned in three different articles. This man posed zero threat and there was no reason to believe otherwise. The cop had no business being a cop. Period. And if cops have to kill people so they're not so afraid anymore of "potential" threats then they need to find another line of work.


RI can correct me if I am wrong, but I'm pretty sure the knee-jerk part he was referring to was:

That's the America Republicans want.
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Re: Could You Have Survived this Encounter With Police?

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Correct, Xeno. It's like Kevin stopped reading my sentence after the word "reflex."
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