The best of a disgusting liberal school teacher!!! Unbelieva

[_Dr. Shades]

So, let me see if I have this straight:

If we can find a deplorable example of X, then that deplorable example is a representative sample of X by default.

Do I have that right, Bach?

[_Kevin Graham]

Is there anyone on this board that has a military family member or friend (or not) that finds any truth in what this educator is trying to indoctrinate into our children?

Get back to the subject of the OP. Can anyone defend this monster?

Some truth. My Dad is a vet. My Mom told us later, years after the divorce, that he joined the Army because a judge gave him two choices: Jail or enlist. I grew up an Army brat and have been around thousands of military personnel. Victory drive at Ft. Benning was a slime hole invested with the worst society had to offer when we lived there. Most enlist for a paycheck, not so they can be heroes.

If you doubt that, just hang outside a recruiters office and see what walks through the door.

I think the main message he was trying to get across to kids is stay in school, apply yourself and do something meaningful that contributes to society. Anyone can join the military and live off the government. Except for cadet bone spurs.

Here is an article from 2006 explaining that the military has been relaxing their enlisting standards.

Under pressure to meet combat needs, the Army and Marine Corps brought in significantly more recruits with felony convictions last year than in 2006, including some with manslaughter and sex crime convictions.

Data released by a congressional committee shows the number of soldiers admitted to the Army with felony records jumped from 249 in 2006 to 511 in 2007. And the number of Marines with felonies rose from 208 to 350.

Those numbers represent a fraction of the more than 180,000 recruits brought in by the active duty Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines during fiscal year ending Sept. 30, 2007. But they highlight a trend that has raised concerns both within the military and on Capitol Hill.

The bulk of the crimes involved were burglaries, other thefts, and drug offenses, but nine involved sex crimes and six involved manslaughter or vehicular homicide convictions. Several dozen Army and Marine recruits had aggravated assault or robbery convictions, including incidents involving weapons.

And then you hear about incidents like these:

The Mahmudiyah rape and killings involved the gang-rape and killing of 14-year-old Iraqi girl Abeer Qassim Hamza al-Janabi and the murder of her family by United States Army soldiers on March 12, 2006. It occurred in the family's house to the southwest of Yusufiyah, a village to the west of the town of Al-Mahmudiyah, Iraq. Others of al-Janabi's family killed included her 34-year-old mother Fakhriyah Taha Muhasen, 45-year-old father Qassim Hamza Raheem, and six-year-old sister Hadeel Qassim Hamza Al-Janabi.

The point isn't that the military is mostly a bunch of losers and ex-cons. The point is they're not all glorious heroes as often depicted in the media and the movies. Some of the most useless pieces of crap on this planet that I know of, are friends to my Dad and war vets. The vast majority of them signed up because they couldn't get a job anywhere else that offered the same benefits. Why do you think enlistments skyrocket during peacetime and diminish during war time? That shows that they're not joining because they want to willingly risk their lives for freedom or whatever.

[_Bach]

Son, you’re so out of touch! Yeah, his comments were no big deal to ignorance:

https://www.whittierdailynews.com/2018/ ... ry-tirade/

But regrettably, I have no doubt that, in California, he gets reinstated w a taxpayer deficit pay/grade raise.

[_Bach]

Calling on Kevin to explain. You seemed to have this issue completely rationalized, understood, comprehended and explained 2 days ago. Can you help me understand this hiccup to your conclusions:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.whitti ... -next/amp/

Just always seems whatever you conclude never seems to hold up. Go figure. Water problems in Atlanta?

[_Kevin Graham]

I think the guy should be fired because of the way he speaks to kids (i.e. cursing). But you asked if there is any truth to anything he was saying and I said yes, there is "some" truth. I grew up around military folks all my lives, and the fact is they're not the best among us. I wouldn't want my daughter dating a military guy. This was commonly accepted fact back in the 80's-90's but then after the invasion of Kuwait and then 9/11 there was a shift in American psyche that began to idolize anyone wearing a uniform. I mean let's get real, we can still pull up articles of American soldiers raping little kids in Iraq, same as they were doing in Vietnam.

[_Ceeboo]

The point isn't that the military is mostly a bunch of losers and ex-cons. The point is they're not all glorious heroes as often depicted in the media and the movies. Some of the most useless pieces of ____ on this planet that I know of, are friends to my Dad and war vets.

I grew up around military folks all my lives, and the fact is they're not the best among us. I wouldn't want my daughter dating a military guy.

but then after the invasion of Kuwait and then 9/11 there was a shift in American psyche that began to idolize anyone wearing a uniform. I mean let's get real, we can still pull up articles of American soldiers raping little kids in Iraq, same as they were doing in Vietnam.

[_Morley]

I mean let's get real, we can still pull up articles of American soldiers raping little kids in Iraq, same as they were doing in Vietnam.

I don't remember doing that in Vietnam.

[Guest]

I grew up around military folks all my lives, and the fact is they're not the best among us. I wouldn't want my daughter dating a military guy.

The vast majority of them signed up because they couldn't get a job anywhere else that offered the same benefits.

That shows that they're not joining because they want to willingly risk their lives for freedom or whatever.

This has not been my experience.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I think the kind of scrutiny or opinion that HS teacher has toward the military is actually a good thing and indicative of a healthy republic. A lot of us lifers were, and are, extremely uncomfortable with the default setting the American public has with its servicemembers these days because KG is right, you don't join the military to be a hero, and if you did you're either going to be very disappointed or you'll be put out because you're a nutjob.

The fact of the matter is I, and the vast majority of servicemembers, joined because we were willing to trade our time for their incentives and benefits. I intended to do one enlistment, but they kept throwing money at me and then they promised to keep throwing money at me even when I wouldn't be there. I definitely got far more out of the military than I contributed. That's a fact.

I can only speak of the active duty person with whom I served from '95 tp '15, in Military Intelligence, but it's been shocking to me since I retired at just how wide the gulf between your average Joe and your average GI Joe is. I can also say at having had a lot of exposure to other branches and their personnel that the same gulf exists between them and your average American.

Anyway. I'm glad teachers like him exist. They provide a good counterbalance to authoritarianism, though I get the feeling he himself is an egomaniac.

- Doc

[_Bach]

I think the kind of scrutiny or opinion that HS teacher has toward the military is actually a good thing and indicative of a healthy republic. A lot of us lifers were, and are, extremely uncomfortable with the default setting the American public has with its servicemembers these days because Kevin Graham is right, you don't join the military to be a hero, and if you did you're either going to be very disappointed or you'll be put out because you're a nutjob.

The fact of the matter is I, and the vast majority of servicemembers, joined because we were willing to trade our time for their incentives and benefits. I intended to do one enlistment, but they kept throwing money at me and then they promised to keep throwing money at me even when I wouldn't be there. I definitely got far more out of the military than I contributed. That's a fact.

I can only speak of the active duty person with whom I served from '95 tp '15, in Military Intelligence, but it's been shocking to me since I retired at just how wide the gulf between your average Joe and your average GI Joe is. I can also say at having had a lot of exposure to other branches and their personnel that the same gulf exists between them and your average American.

Anyway. I'm glad teachers like him exist. They provide a good counterbalance to authoritarianism, though I get the feeling he himself is an egomaniac.

- Doc

How would you feel about HS teachers speaking out against the losers who are part of the LGBT community?

Any difference there in your analysis?