Susan Rice's son converts to Conservatism

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Re: Susan Rice's son converts to Conservatism

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This isn't news, and the only reason ajax is talking about it is because Rush, the college drop out, is obviously bragging about it on his show. Like this is supposed to be some amazing feat. Kids rebel against their parents all the damn time for attention. Some join Mormonism and then leave it once they've grown up and educated themselves. Same is true of political persuasions.
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Hawkeye wrote:Kids rebel against their parents all the damn time for attention. Some join Mormonism and then leave it once they've grown up and educated themselves. Same is true of political persuasions.

I wouldn't make this comparison myself. Conservatism can be quite rational and has it's justified place in politics. Of course, the brand Rush sells isn't that, but a smart kid raised to question assumptions and examine the world around them could very easily come to the conclusion that government restraint and fiscal responsibility are missing in our current political environment and make those their priorities.

Whatever his reasons, I think the major take away from this is that both he and his parents can respect the other's political decisions and look past them to common bedrock beliefs that go deeper than partisan positions. In a sense, that makes it some of the best news I've read in a while.
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ajax18 wrote:What does this say about conservative and liberal being genetic?

Ajax, this is bugging me. I didn't get why you'd even ask this question but having slept on it, it occurred to me that you may believe that an African American young man is genetically disposed to want to live off government handouts or some other drivel. Otherwise, the idea that one's political position would be genetic alone is an odd one. There is strong evidence that one's core values influence one's political leanings, but these are understood to arise through a combination of factors including cultural and educational as well as genetics. So your question made little sense.

Could you explain where you even picked up the idea in the first place?
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Re: Susan Rice's son converts to Conservatism

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Some Schmo wrote:
ajax18 wrote:I guess the leftists on this board better put Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levine on their list of websites forbidden to their children. Even non white kids are not immune to being Hannitized.

As someone who rejected religion at a very young age, I never once thought I would restrict what information my children could listen to.

To this day, I wouldn't preemptively tell my daughter what she can and can't read. I don't want her to be an idiot. I trust she's smart enough to come to her own conclusions. I let her go to church for years. She's now claimed atheism all by herself.

Do you not let your kids read/listen to things you don't agree with, ajax?

Exactly.
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Re: Susan Rice's son converts to Conservatism

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honorentheos wrote:
ajax18 wrote:What does this say about conservative and liberal being genetic?

Ajax, this is bugging me. I didn't get why you'd even ask this question but having slept on it, it occurred to me that you may believe that an African American young man is genetically disposed to want to live off government handouts or some other drivel. Otherwise, the idea that one's political position would be genetic alone is an odd one. There is strong evidence that one's core values influence one's political leanings, but these are understood to arise through a combination of factors including cultural and educational as well as genetics. So your question made little sense.

Could you explain where you even picked up the idea in the first place?



Beastie was the one who first posted on the differences in conservative and liberal brains.
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That there are measurable differences between self-described conservatives and liberals brains doesn't mean those differences are genetic in origin, and to the extent they are, it doesn't mean political affiliation is exclusively genetic in origin. Then moving past that misunderstanding, even if it were the case that political affiliation was exclusively genetic (which it obviously isn't), it wouldn't follow that a child having a different affiliation than their parents is a refutation of that. Unless you think two brown haired parents having a red-haired child is a refutation of the heretiability of hair color, which hopefully you don't, then you can recognize that a child's genetic constitution can vary from their parents to produce differing phenotype.

You have a medical degree Ajax. Get it together.
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You have a medical degree Ajax. Get it together.

If Rush is so racist and hateful, why would a mulatto boy with leftist parents find himself agreeing with Rush?

Do you just think he's of inferior intellect to you because he agrees with Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levine? How long EAllusion until you get tired of elections being decided by voters and start finding a way for those that know better to make decisions such as who can become President?
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moksha wrote:
ajax18 wrote:Even non white kids are not immune to being Hannitized.

Being blasted with a sand Hannitizer will remove even epoxy paint.

Boo! That is as bad as suggesting the kid is a wild Rice.
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Re: Susan Rice's son converts to Conservatism

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ajax18 wrote:How long EAllusion until you get tired of elections being decided by voters and start finding a way for those that know better to make decisions such as who can become President?

Why are you asking EA this question? You should be asking your fellow Trump-kin this. It’s their wish, after all.

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Re: Susan Rice's son converts to Conservatism

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ajax18 wrote:
Do you just think he's of inferior intellect to you because he agrees with Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levine?


His name is spelled Mark Levin. There is no e at the end of his last name.

Mark Reed Levin (/ləˈvɪn/; born September 21, 1957) is an American lawyer, author, and radio personality. He is the host of syndicated radio show The Mark Levin Show, as well as Life, Liberty & Levin on Fox News. Levin worked in the administration of President Ronald Reagan and was a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese. He is president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, has authored seven books, and contributes commentary to various media outlets such as National Review Online. On September 1, 2015, Levin became Editor-in-Chief of Conservative Review.[2]

He has been described as "conservative",[3] "right-wing"[4][5][6] and "pro-Trump".[7] Levin is known for criticizing Democrats and encouraging primary challenges to a number of incumbent congressional Republicans. He endorsed Ted Cruz in the 2016 Republican presidential primary but reluctantly endorsed Donald Trump after Trump won the Republican nomination for the presidency despite continual harsh criticism of him.


Levin rejects the scientific consensus on climate change.[91][92]

On April 29, 2018, Levin dedicated his weekly Fox News program to the thesis that evolutionary biology isn't a science, claiming that "this notion of Darwinism, atheism, really progressivism ... they really don't work with constitutionalism" adding that "Darwinianism ... leads to forms of tyranny, in my view".[93] Levin also attacked the validity of other sciences including political science, behavioral science and social science, bemoaning that they are "applied by the progressives, by the communists" and "had their birth out of, among others Darwinism". The following day on his radio show, Levin further clarified his position by remarking that "DNA is a science, evolution is not a science".[94]


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