Sara Huckabee: Separate kids from Mom because of the Bible

[_honorentheos]

The Bible also says to stone adulterers to death. Trump is a perfect candidate.

[_EAllusion]

This tidbit really gets me.

[_Hawkeye]

Welcome to Trump's America.

When the Christian Right truly hits rock bottom.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

What's your solution?

- Doc

How about we stop letting government officials shape policy according to their stupid religious beliefs? Not that she has s biblical leg to stand on anyway.

I don't think secularism solves the problem you're presenting. Seriously, though. What's your solution?

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

There are multiple reports of government agents telling parents that they are going to take their children for a bath, then taking them away not to be seen again. I don't know how more on the nose you can possibly get, but it's like a live Milgram experiment.

[_honorentheos]

While this has been in the news recently, I haven't really heard much about the underlying issues. Just the stories regarding children the government lost track of and the horror stories related to separated parents and children.

Reading up, this article seemed to do a good job explaining the background that helped paint a better picture of the issue for me:
https://www.vox.com/2018/6/11/17443198/ ... ed-parents

In particular these two quotes -

3) Is the policy of separating families new?

Yes. But it’s building on an existing system, and attention to family separation has brought more awareness to problems with that system that have been going on for some time.

For the past several years, a growing number of people coming into the US without papers have been Central Americans — often families, and often seeking asylum. Asylum seekers and families are both accorded particular protections in US and international law, which make it impossible for the government to simply send them back. Those protections also put strict limits on the length of time, and conditions, in which children can be kept in immigration detention.

When the Obama administration attempted to respond to the “crisis” of families and unaccompanied children crossing the border in summer 2014, it put hundreds of families in immigration detention — a practice that had basically ended several years before. But federal courts stopped the administration from holding families for months without justifying the decision to keep them in detention. So most families ended up getting released while their cases were pending — which immigration hawks have derided as “catch and release.” In some cases, they disappeared into the US rather than showing up for their court dates.

The Trump administration has stepped up detention of asylum seekers (and immigrants, period). But because there are such strict limits on keeping children in immigration detention, it’s had to release most of the families it’s caught.

The government’s solution has been to prosecute larger numbers of immigrants for illegal entry — including, in a break from previous administrations, large numbers of asylum seekers. That allows the Trump administration to ship children off to ORR, rather than keeping them in immigration detention.

and

President Trump has responded to criticisms of family separation by claiming that a “Democratic law” requires him to do it, and that if Congress doesn’t like it, they can change the law.

Separating families at the Border is the fault of bad legislation passed by the Democrats. Border Security laws should be changed but the Democrats can’t get their act together! Started the Wall.

This is not true. There is no law that requires immigrant families to be separated. The decision to charge everyone crossing the border with illegal entry — and the decision to charge asylum seekers in criminal court rather than waiting to see if they qualify for asylum — are both decisions the Trump administration has made.

Other administration officials back up Trump by pointing to the laws that give extra protections to families, unaccompanied children, and asylum seekers. The administration has been asking Congress to change these laws since it came into office, and has blamed them for stopping Trump from securing the border the way he’d like. (Those aren’t “Democratic laws” either; the law addressing unaccompanied children was passed overwhelmingly in 2008 and signed by George W. Bush, while the restriction on detaining families is a result of federal litigation.)

In that context, the law isn’t forcing Trump to separate families; it’s keeping Trump from doing what he’d perhaps really like to do, which is simply sending families back or keeping them in detention together, and so he has had to resort to plan B.

[_subgenius]

How about we stop letting government officials shape policy according to their stupid religious beliefs?

because shaping policy based on your stupid beliefs doesn't work for anyone, but you.

[_canpakes]

How about we stop letting government officials shape policy according to their stupid religious beliefs?

because shaping policy based on your stupid beliefs doesn't work for anyone, but you.

Do you agree that this change in the way that the law is currently being enforced is appropriately humane with regard to the children?

[_DoubtingThomas]

When will the media stop spinning this? They're not immigrant children. They're illegal immigrant children. We either have a country or we don"t.

Good Lord Jesus! We already have strict immigration laws, but there is no need to separate families.

Illegal immigration isn't currently a big problem. There is no evidence that illegal immigrants caused the great recession or that many of them are violent criminals. We have bigger problems in the country to worry about.

[_DoubtingThomas]

How sad that deporting immigrants is a priority for Republicans. We really have bigger problems to worry about. Jesus Christ!!!!
Let's worry instead about the serious threat of a pandemic disease, climate change, poverty, diabetes.

Republicans are full of it! Mother of God!!