Liberal Logic 101

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Re: Liberal Logic 101

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schreech wrote:
We all get that you are a shallow tool but why do you feel the need to come here prove it every day?

same reason you do, but I just have to try harder than you because you make being a shallow tool look effortless.
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Re: Liberal Logic 101

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DarkHelmet wrote:As predicted, you assumed I took this meme as seriously as you took it. Subbie logic - meme's like this will destroy my enemies :lol: This was a very poorly constructed meme for a few reasons.

wow, your powers for presupposition are impressive.

DarkHelmet wrote:1. It's a straw man. The subject of the meme does not accurately portray any liberal ideology I'm aware of.

Oh, if you're not aware of it then....then you've never read any of the countless ant-CEO salary/compensation posts on this board...but you being unaware is totally believable.

DarkHelmet wrote:It is what Fox News wants people to believe is liberal ideology. Therefore, it is quickly seen as just more Fox News propaganda and easily dismissed.

Again, if you think the liberal/left posts on this board overwhelmingly contradict this alleged propaganda then refute the claim with an actual counter argument and not some blather about "unh unh Fox, uhmm uhmm Maddow".

DarkHelmet wrote:2. Clearly the creator of this meme has no basic understanding of marketing. The meme uses one of the most beloved characters in history (a character who is recognized and loved by people in all demographic groups) as the villain, and portrays some fat, balding douchebag as the hero.

and "clearly" you have no basic understanding of the difference between message and messenger. As note by my "style over substance" comment you are preferring to dismiss the point because of its style...and I have no issue with Harrison Ford and love the real Star Wars movies...but I am adult enough to know the meme is not a singular attack on Ford or Solo...its kinda the core of what a "meme" is.
Nevertheless, go on and explain how pretty bows and modern color palettes are the key to your principles while simultaneously claiming "propaganda tactics !"

DarkHelmet wrote:Seriously, the "hero" in your meme looks like an imperial officer. So the question is, why would anyone create this meme, unless they are actually a liberal trying to make conservatives look stupid, and why would a conservative re-post it?

Because only liberals look at shallow qualities to affirm their principles while conservatives are adult enough to recognize the substance as a means to affirm.
But your way worked out well in November 2016, so stick with that for November 2018.
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Re: Liberal Logic 101

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subgenius wrote:Image


yep, reliance of simple single image meme's for political opinions and the inability to respond beyond elementary school come backs...The hallmarks of a Trump supporter. Thanks for representing small-town-been-nowhere american supporters of Trump! You are exactly the type of person everyone expects a Trump supporter to be.

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Re: Liberal Logic 101

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subgenius wrote:Yeah, the fun part would probably be going through the threads on this board and noting how many times liberal posters condemn CEOs for their pay compared to how many posters condemn Hollywood stars' pay.


My Dad is about as conservative as them come and he would complain about how much money some athletes would make. I would just say it is based on a free market system. Most actors do not have any control of the purse strings and have to negotiate there wage, but most actors don't make much money. CEO's have more control of the purse strings.
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Re: Liberal Logic 101

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Themis wrote: Most actors do not have any control of the purse strings and have to negotiate there wage, but most actors don't make much money. CEO's have more control of the purse strings.

Actually most actors do have control through that pesky Unipn of theirs...there are actual required pay rates via that little "control" mechanism a.k.a. CBA. Remind me what union agreement has legal binding for CEO's having so much control...your assertion has no foundation in reality nor any evidence.
But I'm pretty sure you have it all reasoned out in spite of such pesky realities.
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Re: Liberal Logic 101

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schreech wrote:yep, reliance of simple single image meme's for political opinions and the inability to respond beyond elementary school come backs...The hallmarks of a Trump supporter.

given your first post on this thread (and post on every thread), clearly you are a Trump supporter...who'd have guessed?
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Re: Liberal Logic 101

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subgenius wrote:
schreech wrote:
We all get that you are a shallow tool but why do you feel the need to come here prove it every day?

same reason you do, but I just have to try harder than you because you make being a shallow tool look effortless.

subs, don’t be so hard on yourself. You’ve totally got this ‘shallow tool’ thing down pat.
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Re: Liberal Logic 101

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subgenius wrote:Actually most actors do have control through that pesky Unipn of theirs...there are actual required pay rates via that little "control" mechanism a.k.a. CBA. Remind me what union agreement has legal binding for CEO's having so much control...your assertion has no foundation in reality nor any evidence.
But I'm pretty sure you have it all reasoned out in spite of such pesky realities.


Unions just mean collective bargaining with those who control the purse strings and still most actors don't make much, and CEO's do have more control over the purse strings. Interesting you call unions pesky since they are they are supposed to represent the lower income groups. How terrible lower income people get together to try and get better pay.
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Re: Liberal Logic 101

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subgenius wrote:Image


And in record time, subfaps goes from a half-witted, frustrated basement dweller who can't seem to differentiate between some shallow right wing meme and reality to full blown incoherence...Nice! Way to represent the unsuccessful holler dwelling stooges who consider electing a pandering con man/reality star as President a "win" - seems desperate but I get that they don't come that often for you.

Appreciate the entertainment while I sit in this airport lounge, you are a gem!

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Re: Liberal Logic 101

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subgenius wrote:
DarkHelmet wrote:As predicted, you assumed I took this meme as seriously as you took it. Subbie logic - meme's like this will destroy my enemies :lol: This was a very poorly constructed meme for a few reasons.

wow, your powers for presupposition are impressive.

DarkHelmet wrote:1. It's a straw man. The subject of the meme does not accurately portray any liberal ideology I'm aware of.

Oh, if you're not aware of it then....then you've never read any of the countless ant-CEO salary/compensation posts on this board...but you being unaware is totally believable.

DarkHelmet wrote:It is what Fox News wants people to believe is liberal ideology. Therefore, it is quickly seen as just more Fox News propaganda and easily dismissed.

Again, if you think the liberal/left posts on this board overwhelmingly contradict this alleged propaganda then refute the claim with an actual counter argument and not some blather about "unh unh Fox, uhmm uhmm Maddow".

DarkHelmet wrote:2. Clearly the creator of this meme has no basic understanding of marketing. The meme uses one of the most beloved characters in history (a character who is recognized and loved by people in all demographic groups) as the villain, and portrays some fat, balding douchebag as the hero.

and "clearly" you have no basic understanding of the difference between message and messenger. As note by my "style over substance" comment you are preferring to dismiss the point because of its style...and I have no issue with Harrison Ford and love the real Star Wars movies...but I am adult enough to know the meme is not a singular attack on Ford or Solo...its kinda the core of what a "meme" is.
Nevertheless, go on and explain how pretty bows and modern color palettes are the key to your principles while simultaneously claiming "propaganda tactics !"

DarkHelmet wrote:Seriously, the "hero" in your meme looks like an imperial officer. So the question is, why would anyone create this meme, unless they are actually a liberal trying to make conservatives look stupid, and why would a conservative re-post it?

Because only liberals look at shallow qualities to affirm their principles while conservatives are adult enough to recognize the substance as a means to affirm.
But your way worked out well in November 2016, so stick with that for November 2018.


:lol: You continue to act is if this meme has some deep qualities that I am missing. You are so cute. That meme is about as deep as this one...

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...but far less funny, and this one doesn't even have any words.
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