Drumpf Thinks "Flipping" Should Be a Crime

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Re: Drumpf Thinks "Flipping" Should Be a Crime

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ajax18 wrote:
At this point, for the benefit of Ajax, Bach, subgenius and others, who apparently still blindly support or make excuses for Trump,

I genuinely appreciate your sincere concern for us. What would we do without Gunnar helping us to see the beauty in turning our native country into a 3rd world Latin American shithole.

As opposed to ajax showing us we need Drumpf to make sure we get a European shithole instead.
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moksha wrote:It is one of those cosmic ironies that Trump would have the temerity to call anyone "crooked". It is as though a fuligin colored pot was referring to another cooking utensil as black. Trump could teach Manuel Noriega a thing or two.

I never encountered the word "fuligin" before. I had to look it up.

fuligin (uncountable)
1. soot, lampblack quotations ▼

2013, Stephen Donaldson, The Last Dark. The Last Chronicles of Thomas Covenant

Then the Forestal took the Staff of Law, black as fuligin after her battle - -

2. a hypothetical colour darker than black quotations ▲

1980, Gene Wolfe, The Shadow of the Torturer

“What is the tinct of your own guild?” — “Fuligin,” I told him. “The color that is darker than black.”

2001, “Richard Horton” (username), “REVIEW: Vernor Vinge’s ‘Across Realtime’”

“I'm wearing black only until I find something darker.” — “Fuligin, Mark. Fuligin.”

2003, “Mike Andrews” (username), “hosteurope blackhat?”

More like fuligin: darker than an event horizon.

Thanks for adding to my vocabulary! :smile: I like the very apt comparison!
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You still didn't answer my questions! Do you still dismiss out of hand the massive and still growing evidence of Trump's corruption, dishonesty and guilt?


Do you remember how you said my questions weren't worth answering? Touche
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ajax18 wrote:
You still didn't answer my questions! Do you still dismiss out of hand the massive and still growing evidence of Trump's corruption, dishonesty and guilt?

Do you remember how you said my questions weren't worth answering? Touche
Why do I get the feeling you're just a tad pissed that all the BS you believed is being debunked by the courts?

It's tough on anyone when their worldview is destroyed.
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Some Schmo wrote:
It's tough on anyone when their worldview is destroyed.


They must get used to it, because their worldview is destroyed all the time. It seems like the same type of people are always on the wrong side of history. These are the same type of people who would have defended slavery if they lived in the south in the mid-1800s. They would have defended polygamy if they were Brighamite Mormons in the mid-1800s. They would have opposed civil rights in the mid-1900s. They would have defended Nixon during watergate. They oppose gay marriage today. They argue for intelligent design and against the greenhouse theory of global warming, because....I don't know, I guess they just instinctively choose the side not supported by science. It's as if they are genetically wired to always choose the side that the history books will frown on. It's not always easy to pick the right side of an issue, but they would be around 50% just by flipping a coin.
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They must get used to it, because their worldview is destroyed all the time.


No it's been reaffirmed to me throughout my life.

It seems like the same type of people are always on the wrong side of history. These are the same type of people who would have defended slavery if they lived in the south in the mid-1800s.


If it were up to me, African slaves would have never been brought to the US. Imagine how much better things would have been for centuries to come had we picked our own cotton.

They would have defended polygamy if they were Brighamite Mormons in the mid-1800s.


I defend it now. Polygamy is in line with God and nature in my opinion. Human beings are polygamous just like most other primates. I doubt all people have the same Heavenly Mother.

They oppose gay marriage today.


I don't see gay marriage effecting as many people as we give attention to it. What percentage of people are really born gay to the point of being incapable of reproducing themselves through heterosexual reproduction? It's a choice for most so called "gays."

It's as if they are genetically wired to always choose the side that the history books will frown on.


Isn't that kind of racist? Isn't racism the worst sin imgainable in your eyes? It seems to be the only sin that gets any attention from the left.

It's not always easy to pick the right side of an issue, but they would be around 50% just by flipping a coin.


Who says what right and wrong is in your world view? EAllusion?
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DarkHelmet wrote:It seems like the same type of people are always on the wrong side of history.

As we just saw with ajax's response to this, it's likely because they're incredibly poor judges of reality and their reasoning sucks.
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Trumpers don't care about his crimes so long as the economy seems healthy and he gives them license to hate liberals and the "other".
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Maksutov wrote:Trumpers don't care about his crimes so long as the economy seems healthy and he gives them license to hate liberals and the "other".


Well. The problem for the Trump Presidency is the *cough* deep state. I'm convinced a lot the leaks, not the petty stuff you see from the White House about Trump needing bullet points for his briefing and whatnot, but the stuff that's being attributed to the Comey-cum-Mueller investigative team.

Here's the thing. I don't think it's the FBI that's leaking crap to the WP and NYT. It's the Intelligence Community (IC). And it's probably someone who is higher up, with enough access to the good stuff that they're driving this investigation by leaking bits here and there.

A good example(s) would be the Trump Tower meetings. They'd lead a bit, like one juicy tidbit, and just let the media marinate on it for weeks. They'd wait until Team White House denies it, and then *BAM* leak proof of the meetings. Just a total take down. Like, WWE crap. And they've been doing this, well, since the beginning.

I suspect the IC's motivation is smart. They want to take the traitor Trump down lawfully, legally. If they were just to dump the whole mess, Wikileaks style, it's just too much to digest and the public would lose interest after a few weeks. What they're doing is keeping this issue at a low simmer, and the damned White House knows they're cooked. They damned know it, and they're just waiting for this thing to unfold. If anyone has been paying attention the Helsinki debacle was really the point of no return for Trump.

This is why Pence doesn't say crap. EVER. He's going to assume the Presidency, assuming Trump isn't impeached, and he doesn't want to look like a collaborator with a traitor. That'd tank his Presidency and possibly a bid for re-election in 2020.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Maksutov wrote:Trumpers don't care about his crimes so long as the economy seems healthy and he gives them license to hate liberals and the "other".


Well. The problem for the Trump Presidency is the *cough* deep state. I'm convinced a lot the leaks, not the petty stuff you see from the White House about Trump needing bullet points for his briefing and whatnot, but the stuff that's being attributed to the Comey-cum-Mueller investigative team.

Here's the thing. I don't think it's the FBI that's leaking ____ to the WP and New York Times. It's the Intelligence Community (IC). And it's probably someone who is higher up, with enough access to the good stuff that they're driving this investigation by leaking bits here and there.

A good example(s) would be the Trump Tower meetings. They'd lead a bit, like one juicy tidbit, and just let the media marinate on it for weeks. They'd wait until Team White House denies it, and then *BAM* leak proof of the meetings. Just a total take down. Like, WWE ____. And they've been doing this, well, since the beginning.

I suspect the IC's motivation is smart. They want to take the traitor Trump down lawfully, legally. If they were just to dump the whole mess, Wikileaks style, it's just too much to digest and the public would lose interest after a few weeks. What they're doing is keeping this issue at a low simmer, and the ____ White House knows they're cooked. They ____ know it, and they're just waiting for this thing to unfold. If anyone has been paying attention the Helsinki debacle was really the point of no return for Trump.

This is why Pence doesn't say ____. EVER. He's going to assume the Presidency, assuming Trump isn't impeached, and he doesn't want to look like a collaborator with a traitor. That'd tank his Presidency and possibly a bid for re-election in 2020.

- Doc


Hard to know all the motivations. Hard to say if they're relevant. Mark Felt was a disgruntled Deep Stater in Trump terms. Was Mark Felt a hero? :wink:
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