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Markk wrote:You have obviously never been to a big city with large homeless populations. That doesn't always work unless you have 24/7 cleaning and security at the restrooms, and many of the chronic won't use them anyways, many haven't showered in years, why would they care about hygiene?


It works in outdoor concerts for 50,000 people, it works in big cities. Man you're damned stupid.
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Kevin Graham wrote:It works in outdoor concerts for 50,000 people, it works in big cities. Man you're ____ stupid.

If it works in big cities...why isn't it working in big cities like LA and SF? There is a problem Kevin...there are people on the streets that refuse to use restrooms even when available. If they have to poop or pee, they simply poop or pee where they are. This is why 50 or so square blocks of Los Angels need to be systematically disinfected on a regular basis.

You can find a restroom if you want one, or get a shower if you want one...but far too many don't want one or even try, and honestly can't take care of themselves.

People that pay good money to go to a concert or sporting event, generally want to use a restroom, unless you go to a Raider game. Far too many on the streets could simply care less.

This happened when they tried porta potties in 05 in LA.

https://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-lop ... olumn.html

This year they built 8 toilets and 4 or 5 shower for 1/2 a million dollars for skidrow, and the city supplies 24/7 maintenance and security, and activist's say it is 300 short. So I am not sure what the answer is, but just saying put more toilets out there creates other issues and does not make those that don't care use them.

Thanks for the kind words and for actually trying to understand the a huge problem many or our big cites are facing.
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Kevin Graham wrote:
Markk wrote:You have obviously never been to a big city with large homeless populations. That doesn't always work unless you have 24/7 cleaning and security at the restrooms, and many of the chronic won't use them anyways, many haven't showered in years, why would they care about hygiene?

It works in outdoor concerts for 50,000 people, it works in big cities. Man you're damned stupid.

says the guy who doesn't know that California provides not only public toilets but even public showers for homeless...yet still has poop on street. Ignorance is when isolated people like yourselves think that more toilets is an actual solution.

and yeah, homelessness - its like an outdoor concert.
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https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/loca ... 05881.html

"On the orders of LA Mayor Eric Garcetti, who allocated an extra $300,000 for the clean up effort, Sanitation Department crews will now regularly remove trash and feces and then power wash the entire area the city now calls "The Typhus Zone."


Note that disinfection is not only in skid row areas, but expanding to the new high rise housing areas as well in the "The Typhus Zone.".
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I have lived for long periods in a city which had a significant number of people who apparently live on the street, but which had no apparent problem of human excrement in public places. It had pretty good clean (really, really clean), safe, private and convenient public toilet provision.

If a city does provide such facilities (and I don't know whether the claims made for that on this board in relation to certain cities are correct or not), but there are still significant numbers of people on the street who habitually defecate in public, I would suggest that the city may also have a major deficit in its public mental health provision and general provision of social support for the socially inadequate.
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NYC has the largest homeless population of any city in the US. I've not seen the problems you're talking about on the streets of NYC. Of course, I haven't walked every inch of the city either.
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Markkkk here's an article on new homeless shelters in NYC. Does LA have anything like this?

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-yor ... -afford-12
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Markk wrote:
Chap wrote:Yup. Public toilets are a rather obvious answer. People with no homes need these for basic human dignity. So provide them.


You have obviously never been to a big city with large homeless populations. That doesn't always work unless you have 24/7 cleaning and security at the restrooms, and many of the chronic won't use them anyways, many haven't showered in years, why would they care about hygiene?


So it would seem that your solution to lack of appropriate toileting practices for the homeless is to withdraw restroom services, get a phone app and "watch your step".

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Jersey Girl wrote:New York City has the largest homeless population of any city in the US. I've not seen the problems you're talking about on the streets of New York City. Of course, I haven't walked every inch of the city either.

Ever notice the smell of urine in the alleys? Of course, that could just be from visiting tourists who are more uncouth than the homeless and native New Yorkers.
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I live in San Francisco. As a tour guide, I go through the city almost every day. Part of the tour goes through the Tenderloin district, the poorest area of San Francisco. In both the Tenderloin and the Haight Ashbury districts, the city offers trailers with portable showers for the homeless. I live a few blocks from Golden Gate park, which has a regular homeless population. As someone who actually lives in the city, I may have seen feces on the street once or twice, but certainly less than 5 times since I've lived here (nearly 50 years).

As a tour guide, I get to see a lot of reactions to San Francisco's homeless population. Lately I've been examining my own response to homelessness. And the uncomfortable truth is this: The more homelessness and poverty becomes prevalent, the easier it is to harden your heart and deny the humanity of the poor and homeless.

Imagine living in a country where homelessness is rare. If you saw a single homeless person on the street, it's a lot easier to open your heart. Imagine if there was one homeless person. Everyone would want to help. But when we are overwhelmed by the enormity of the problem, it is easier for us to deny the humanity of those poor and suffering.

Leo Tolstoy, who had a sizeable estate from the success of Anna Karenina, gave away most of his money to the poor, to the despair of his wife. Was giving away his money like spitting in the ocean, or was he adding his light to the sum of all light and not worrying about the ending?

Glide Memorial Church in the heart of the Tenderloin, serves 750,000 meals each year to the homeless. It is difficult to imagine a Church more committed to the teachings of Jesus. Meanwhile Televangelists travel on private jets and promote the prosperity doctrine.
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