Republicans block election security bills

[_Some Schmo]

The country is slowly catching on that Republicans are assholes, at about the same rate that the GOP is successfully rigging and suppressing the vote. To keep that pace going, they have to accept Russian help.

There's no denying it. Russians Republicans are damned traitors to this country.

[_Kevin Graham]

I suppose there is a possibility that the bill has some crazy insert that would make it seem slimy by the Democrats. But I have yet to hear what that would be, and we certainly would have heard that by now if true. McConnell did this because that's his M.O., to automatically, flat out disagree with anything Democrats propose.

[_Kevin Graham]

Still waiting for a valid excuse as to why he's blocking this...

The only plausible explanation seems to be the one the media is running with. He knows that by securing our elections from cyber attacks it will result in more Democrats getting elected.

[_subgenius]

So, just to verify that im following along correctly:
1. prior to 2016 election, the US knew Russians were likely to meddle.
2. The 2016 administration did nothing or was ineffective in preventing attempted Russian election meddling in all 50 States.
3. prior to 2018 election, the US knew Russians were likely to meddle.
4. The 2018 administration implemented sanctions and policies to deter meddling...and to date, not a single report of any Russian meddling.

5. But now, Russian meddling is a proper boogeyman for the DNC (the party that has done nothing to stop Russia and has waaay more incriminating hot mic and business connections with Russia) because they have no counter to the successful policies of the Republicans and they have no candidate of substance in their current parade.

[_subgenius]

Link to proposed legislation:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-con ... 62239221FB

It apoears that this Legislation does nothing but propose throwing money at the problem and claiming that as the solution.
Pure theater by Democrats, or perhaps just another reallocation of money to an impotent solution...likely as effective as Obama was in preventing the widespread 2016 infiltration.

[_canpakes]

Link to proposed legislation:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-con ... 62239221FB

It apoears that this Legislation does nothing but propose throwing money at the problem and claiming that as the solution.
Pure theater by Democrats, or perhaps just another reallocation of money to an impotent solution...likely as effective as Obama was in preventing the widespread 2016 infiltration.

Here are some excerpts from the legislation that you didn't read, which run counter to your dishonest claim:

“(A) The vendor must be owned and controlled by a citizen or permanent resident of the United States.

“(B) The vendor must disclose to the Chairman and the Secretary, and to the chief State election official of any State to which the vendor provides any goods and services with funds provided under this part, of any sourcing outside the United States for parts of the election infrastructure.

“(C) The vendor agrees to ensure that the election infrastructure will be developed and maintained in a manner that is consistent with the cybersecurity best practices issued by the Technical Guidelines Development Committee.

“(D) The vendor agrees to maintain its information technology infrastructure in a manner that is consistent with the cybersecurity best practices issued by the Technical Guidelines Development Committee.

“(E) The vendor agrees to meet the requirements of paragraph (3) with respect to any known or suspected cybersecurity incidents involving any of the goods and services provided by the vendor pursuant to a grant under this part.

“(F) The vendor agrees to permit independent security testing by the Commission (in accordance with section 231(a)) and by the Secretary of the goods and services provided by the vendor pursuant to a grant under this part.

And so on. This is a start, in any event.

Could the bill be brought up for discussion and amendment? Would there be a problem with that? Is there a Republican-approved alternative that can be looked at and debated?

Do you have some alternative suggestions? Or are you only here to bitch about it? ; )

[_Gunnar]

I strongly suspect that subby's attitude towards this issue is exactly the same as that of McConnell and other conservative Republicans. The important issue for him is discouraging and preventing Democrats from voting, no matter what agency or scheme, foreign or otherwise, even if illegal, aids or abets that outcome.

[_Kevin Graham]

So, just to verify that im following along correctly:
1. prior to 2016 election, the US knew Russians were likely to meddle.
2. The 2016 administration did nothing or was ineffective in preventing attempted Russian election meddling in all 50 States.
3. prior to 2018 election, the US knew Russians were likely to meddle.
4. The 2018 administration implemented sanctions and policies to deter meddling...and to date, not a single report of any Russian meddling.

5. But now, Russian meddling is a proper boogeyman for the DNC (the party that has done nothing to stop Russia and has waaay more incriminating hot mic and business connections with Russia) because they have no counter to the successful policies of the Republicans and they have no candidate of substance in their current parade.

1. In August 2016, just a few months before the election the Obama administration learned election-related hacks could be traced back to the Russian government. Soon after, at the September G20 Summit in China, Obama personally confronted Russian President Vladimir Putin and told him to back off.

Key point. Obama confronted Putin within a month. After three years, and a full investigation proving Russian meddling, Trump insists Putin is innocent and the whole thing is a hoax.

2. The administration didn't "do nothing" and that is just something we'd expect from a mouth breather who just regurgitates what idiot Trump says. The Obama admin acknowledged the threat. In late December, Obama ordered 35 Russian diplomats and suspected intelligence agents to leave the United States, and he also imposed narrow sanctions on some Russian individuals and organizations.

This was all at the tail end of Obama's second term, the damage had already been done so there was nothing to 'stop' at that point. And everyone knows the reason the Obama administration didn't take stronger measures is because of the political climate at election time. Idiots like you would be telling us he is just trying to make excuses for the election results. In fact, that's exactly what idiots like you are doing right now.

Your claim that Trump tried to deter meddling with sanctions is hilarious since he doesn't even acknowledge any meddling happened.

But at the end of the day you know for a fact Russia meddled and is continuing to meddle but you don't care because you know they're only trying to get Republicans elected. Proving yet again that you're anything but patriotic and you care nothing about the security of this nation, except when it is about poor brown pregnant women crossing the border. Again, human garbage.

The "reports" of Russian meddling are confirmed by our current intelligence officials which neither you nor Trump trust because you believe it is all a hoax. Russia's efforts are widespread and systematic according to the recent investigation, and they're happening as we speak.

But go back to the "whataboutism" of the last few months of the Obama administration. That's all you know how to do.

[_subgenius]

So, just to verify that im following along correctly:
1. prior to 2016 election, the US knew Russians were likely to meddle.
2. The 2016 administration did nothing or was ineffective in preventing attempted Russian election meddling in all 50 States.
3. prior to 2018 election, the US knew Russians were likely to meddle.
4. The 2018 administration implemented sanctions and policies to deter meddling...and to date, not a single report of any Russian meddling.

5. But now, Russian meddling is a proper boogeyman for the DNC (the party that has done nothing to stop Russia and has waaay more incriminating hot mic and business connections with Russia) because they have no counter to the successful policies of the Republicans and they have no candidate of substance in their current parade.

1. In August 2016, just a few months before the election the Obama administration learned election-related hacks could be traced back to the Russian government. Soon after, at the September G20 Summit in China, Obama personally confronted Russian President Vladimir Putin and told him to back off.

Well, that must have worked, because only 50 States got "backed on"....but it was a solid policy move and defense by Obama.....Yosemite Sam does the same things for truckers.

Key point. Obama confronted Putin within a month. After three years, and a full investigation proving Russian meddling, Trump insists Putin is innocent and the whole thing is a hoax.

Do you have a video or audio of this "confrontation"?

2. The administration didn't "do nothing" and that is just something we'd expect from a mouth breather who just regurgitates what idiot Trump says. The Obama admin acknowledged the threat. In late December, Obama ordered 35 Russian diplomats and suspected intelligence agents to leave the United States, and he also imposed narrow sanctions on some Russian individuals and organizations.

Yes, Obama did something:

This was all at the tail end of Obama's second term, the damage had already been done so there was nothing to 'stop' at that point. And everyone knows the reason the Obama administration didn't take stronger measures is because of the political climate at election time.

The most eloquent manifestation of stupidity I have ever read.
"Obama lets Russians hack election, because there was an election" - solid reasoning tard.

[_Kevin Graham]

Trump's intelligence chief resigned after the White House repeatedly suppressed his warnings about Russian interference