JD Vance's Audacious Attack on Kamala Harris

[Gunnar]

One has to wonder, though, how such a vehemently diehard anti-abortionist managed to get elected to the Senate in the same state that not too long ago so overwhelmingly voted to constitutionally guarantee a woman's right to choose. I refuse to characterize him as diehard pro-lifer, because for several good reasons, the diehard anti-abortion position, when all things are rationally considered, is actually less pro-life than is the pro-choice position.

Okay I hate to get started on this subtopic so I will be brief. Some pro-lifers don't give an actual damn about life, particularly that of the woman. It's perfectly fine if a woman who has miscarried is denied extraction of what remains and dies of sepsis.

And now they want to go after IVF and contraception. What's that series? Oh yeah, The Handmaiden's Tale.

I'll stop now.

I think you have the situation pegged!

[Some Schmo]

It's hard to read comments like Vance's and not think oh, he has brain damage.

[Kishkumen]

It's hard to read comments like Vance's and not think oh, he has brain damage.

I think of it more like this: he is an ambitious, amoral sack of crap.

[Some Schmo]

It's hard to read comments like Vance's and not think oh, he has brain damage.

I think of it more like this: he is an ambitious, amoral sack of crap.

I suppose I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, but your view is compelling.

[Gadianton]

I'd prepare for the DEI and more aggressive racist and sexist campaign. It won't matter what the Republican strategists want. The hot opinions of the Republican party are born on 4chan, make their way to Twitter and Facebook, and ultimately to MAGA leaders' social media where they get retweeted and riffed on and repackaged and the moderates either go along with it or say nothing out of fear of being called RINOs. It is a populist movement, the people get to tell the leaders what's cool, and what's cool is what's most extreme because that's what will get noticed and re-tweeted.

As we saw from a recent laughable thread that keeps getting more laughable, DEI was the blame for the recent Trump assassination attempt. Megan Kelly's expert witness from the SS flatly contradicted Megan's ignorant opinions, yet it was her ignorant opinions that shaped her audience's opinions, with no thinking done by her audience. Marino slapped down the charge that women can't be effective SS agents. But does DEI necessarily result in less qualified candidates? Or maybe hyper focus on DEI to the exclusion of the core work is a problem? Marino seemed to be suggesting the latter possibility, although he could have meant the former also. More information may come out indicating a problem, but for now, the fundamental failures don't seem to track with physical characteristics, and indicate complacency and lack of planning and direction. Even if a particular person turns out to have done a bad job, is that because they weren't qualified or because they didn't have enough training or direction?

If Harris is the DEI candidate that rich liberals must have because they're delusional, pushing a woman to the top because they personally think it's time, then she's going to get crushed. And that's been my fear -- I know nothing about the inner workings of the Democratic Party and haven't had high hopes. As the dust has settled, they don't seem to be as delusional as I assumed, at least so far. Kamala seems to be a solid pick in terms of her ability to win, and the reaction from right-wing media has been hilarious. "What about all the money we spent campaigning against Biden's age?" lol. Maybe you should have campaigned on Trump's 2025 project everyone fears? Hey, they could do the same thing to us. Pull Trump out and see if we complain about all the money wasted on Trump's attempt to overturn the election. The way I see it, per the messaging, Republican's got their wish.

The first Harris video the Algorithm recommended was Harris' old campaign for president video that was going viral. It was pure gold. I'm sure I saw it way back when. But thinking about it, it was ahead of its time. I would have thought it was lame back then. I remember when my left-wing friend told me midway through Trump's presidency that he's not going to step down thinking this was another one my friend's exaggerations. But nope. The ad is so good because it's so perfect with hindsight.

[Some Schmo]

New Polls Reveal JD Vance is the WORST VP Pick In American History – Trump's MASSIVE Regrets

I love listening to Tim Miller, and this one is especially fun for me.

[Chap]

It's hard to read comments like Vance's and not think oh, he has brain damage.

I think of it more like this: he is an ambitious, amoral sack of crap.

Yup. The brain damage hypothesis is too charitable by far. He does it all on purpose, in order to suck up the support of people who ... well, can be influenced by his disgusting racist and sexist spewings.

[Jersey Girl]

Someone probably already addressed this from the OP but I want to come back to it.

Vance attacked Vice President Kamala Harris by name in 2021 as a “childless cat lady,” bitterly complaining that women who don’t produce children themselves (Harris is the proud mother of two step-children from her husband’s first marriage) don’t have a “physical commitment to the future of this country”:

“We’re effectively run in this country via the Democrats, via the corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they made, and so they want to make the rest of the country miserable, too…

“It’s just a basic fact: You look at Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children. And how does it make any sense that we’ve turned our country over to people that don’t have a direct stake in it.”

Bottom up...Harris, Buttigieg, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez control the future of the Democratic Party?

Putting that aside...I file every remark he made regarding childless persons in the give him enough rope folder because in those remarks he sent a negative and foolhardy message to every step child, every child conceived by surrogate, and adoption including their parents, step or otherwise, and effectively stated that they and their very existence doesn't count.

Harris isn't childless. She's co parenting her step children with her husband and his ex-wife. And since when is reproduction a pre req for the job of President?

Every citizen has a "stake" in America's children for the simple fact that children are they represent future of each generation in this country. That's too far an intellectual leap for Vance. I'll spare you all the "they are going to be your doctors, nurses, financial managers, attorneys, public servants, and so on and so forth, in your old age." speech.

Is he willing to go through the congressional roster and sort out every person who is in the above categories, then call for their resignation if they are co parenting bonus children, raising adoptees, or have conceived via IVF or surrogacy?

The Trump defensive hatefest campaign has literally nothing to fight with. Nothing to put up against Harris except for her female laugh and her uterus.

How under the bottom, knuckle dragging, reptilian brained can they possibly get?

You guys better watch out. They're attacking the combined uteri of America and when they get to contraception they're going to go for your right to a vasectomy.

[Gunnar]

JD Vance's expressed views are so horrible and so obviously at odds with what the majority of Americans support that he could hardly do more harm to the Republican side if he was deliberately trying to do so. This leads me to wonder if, perhaps, that is his covert intent. If not, he has inadvertently revealed his own, abject stupidity.

[Moksha]

I think of it more like this: he is an ambitious, amoral sack of crap.

He is sharp enough to surmise that is exactly what Republicans want and Vance intends to give it to them. They want someone who could carry on the Trump legacy. He needs to have temper tantrums and throw food against the wall.