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Remember that one time Trump and all of his followers said that the reason the National Guard wasn't called in to stop the treason brigade from breaking into the Capitol and trying to murder police officers was because only Nancy Pelosi could do it?

I wonder how he managed to just deploy 800 troops in DC when according to MAGA logic/lies, that's only something Johnson can do?

One of the amazing things about Trump is that if you give him long enough, he'll end up disproving his own lies.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:49 pm
Remember that one time Trump and all of his followers said that the reason the National Guard wasn't called in to stop the treason brigade from breaking into the Capitol and trying to murder police officers was because only Nancy Pelosi could do it?

I wonder how he managed to just deploy 800 troops in DC when according to MAGA logic/lies, that's only something Johnson can do?

One of the amazing things about Trump is that if you give him long enough, he'll end up disproving his own lies.
Yep! I commented about that last night on another thread. He'll stop at nothing but the truth is that he can't do anything right.
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It should be noted that Trump’s tariffs toward Brazil has destroyed the supply chain of coffee, and we’re going to be seeing some huge jumps in coffee prices. In fact, we’re already seeing it; we would buy a certain kind of coffee for $4.99 and it’s now $7.77. THANKS Trump.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Aug 13, 2025 7:58 pm
It should be noted that Trump’s tariffs toward Brazil has destroyed the supply chain of coffee, and we’re going to be seeing some huge jumps in coffee prices. In fact, we’re already seeing it; we would buy a certain kind of coffee for $4.99 and it’s now $7.77. THANKS Trump.

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Pro Tip: If there's something you use regularly, like coffee, you can search online to find out where it's produced and go from there. Keep in mind that some parts of you item may be produced here in the US and other parts in other countries.

Off the top of my head (because I did this when he started imposing the tarrifs months ago) I checked on toothpaste, tea, cinnamon and various other spices, and as you noted coffee from Brazil. Look around your kitchen and bathroom to see what you regularly use or consume and go from there. Also check on batteries and things like that.

Be specific about your search. Use brand and product name.

I got black tea for days. ;)
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Trumponomics is getting off to a rough start.
Producer prices in July rose faster than forecast across the board, giving investors and the Federal Reserve an inflation surprise just over a week out from Fed Chair Jay Powell's crucial Jackson Hole speech.

The Producer Price Index (PPI) for July showed inflation for businesses rose 0.9% over the prior month in July, well ahead of the 0.2% increase that was forecast data from the BLS showed Thursday. On an annual basis, prices rose 3.3%, the most since February.

"Core" producer prices, which exclude food, energy, and trade services, rose 0.6% last month, the most since March 2022 and an uptick after prices were unchanged in June. On an annual basis, core producer prices rose 3.3%, which was also the most since February.

Stock futures slipped following the release of Thursday's data.

Thursday's data comes two days after the July Consumer Price Index showed inflation pressures were broadly in-line with forecasts, while "core" inflation last month reached a six-month high. On an annual basis, consumer prices rose 3.1% in July, an increase from 2.9% the prior month and still well ahead of the Fed's 2% inflation target.

Producer prices measure price changes from the perspective of businesses offering or selling goods and services in the economy; consumer prices measure changes from the perspective of those paying for those goods and services.

Thursday's data suggests, then, that companies will not be absorbing the costs of tariffs but will pass these costs on to consumers in the form of higher prices.
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The EIA has released their Short-Term Energy Outlook.

Cliff-notes: Expect massive bailouts of oil companies mid/late 2026, or significantly reduced production accompanied by bankruptcies (similar to last time Trump destroyed the economy). Hopefully OPEC won't dog-walk Trump again, and create an inflationary bomb that him and his mouth-breathing cultists will try to blame on the next president. Despite the drastic drops in oil prices, gas prices will only drop about 6% because of the bottleneck caused by Trump's idiocy that resulted in multiple refinery closures, and the difficulty some refiners are experiencing due to climate change.

If the reduced output route happens, expect electricity prices to skyrocket since our stable genius President has already promised over 100% of our current LNG production to other countries through his "art of the deal." Fortunately we'll have plenty of renewables like wind to fall back on... oh, wait.

The bailouts route will be interesting (if that's what happens), given the weakened dollar, increased bond rates, and reduced credit rating for the US (all direct current results of Trump policies). If only someone had warned us. Like, I dunno, every single Nobel Prize winning economist that looked at Trump's proposed policies and last presidency, or every university including Trump's own alma mater that compared Trump's policies with those of Harris.


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Of course, this isn't written in stone. It's not a definitive doom-and-gloom outcome. There are a lot of things that Trump can do that could potentially reverse the current projections.
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Doctor Steuss wrote: Despite the drastic drops in oil prices, gas prices will only drop about 6% because of the bottleneck caused by Trump's idiocy that resulted in multiple refinery closures
Now Steuss, "refine" is two syllables whereas "drill" is only one. It will be hard to squeeze out a saying as catchy as "drill baby drill" from it. So it's not entirely their fault they forgot there was another step or two.
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It wasn’t on The List, but Trump has finally decided to call out the National Guard in Washington DC, nearly 5 years too late after he prodded his own followers into a riot on J6. We’ve discovered what finally drove him to take action.

Alleged DC sandwich-thrower worked at justice department, attorney general says

Sean Charles Dunn, who was charged with assaulting a law enforcement officer, was fired after incident

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Thu 14 Aug 2025 13.58 EDT



The US attorney general, Pam Bondi, announced on Thursday that the man facing a felony assault charge for allegedly throwing a sandwich at a federal law enforcement officer in Washington DC worked at the Department of Justice.

In a statement posted on social media, Bondi said that the man, identified in court documents as 37-year-old Sean Charles Dunn, has since been fired.

“If you touch any law enforcement officer, we will come after you. I just learned that this defendant worked at the Department of Justice – NO LONGER. Not only is he FIRED, he has been charged with a felony,” Bondi wrote.

“This is an example of the Deep State we have been up against for seven months as we work to refocus DOJ. You will NOT work in this administration while disrespecting our government and law enforcement.”

Dunn served as an international affairs specialist in the criminal division of the office of international affairs at the Department of Justice, according to CNN.

On Wednesday night, the FBI director, Kash Patel, said that Dunn had been charged with felony assault on a federal officer.

In court documents, authorities say that the incident occurred on Sunday night on 14th Street in north-west DC. They say that Dunn approached and confronted a group of US Customs and Border Protection officers who were patrolling the area.

Authorities claim that Dunn pointed his finger in an officer’s face and yelled, “F*ck you! You f*cking fascists! Why are you here? I don’t want you in my city,” before “winding his arm back and forcefully throwing sub-style sandwich” at an officer.

Authorities said that Dunn then attempted to flee on foot but was apprehended.

During processing, authorities say that Dunn confessed to the incident and told the officers, “I did it. I threw a sandwich,”
according to court documents.

The incident was captured on video, which has since gone viral. In the footage, a man can be seen yelling “You see these fascists? F*ck you!” and “Shame!” at a group of officers patrolling the area before throwing a wrapped sub-style sandwich at one of them. He is then chased by the officers.

The US attorney for the District of Columbia, Jeanine Pirro, who was recently confirmed to the position, announced the charges against Dunn on Wednesday.

“This guy thought it was funny – well, he doesn’t think it’s funny today, because we charged him with a felony,” the former Fox News host said.

The incident came several days after Donald Trump ordered federal officers to start sweeping the streets of Washington DC, in what the White House said was part of an effort to crack down on violent crime, despite statistics showing that the city’s violent crime rate hit a 30-year low in 2024.

On Monday, one day after the sandwich incident, Trump announced that he was deploying the national guard in Washington DC and seizing control of the city’s police force.

National guard troops began deploying across the city on Tuesday night.

Deep State Sandwich Throwers. They’re everywhere, and no one is safe.
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City of Washington DC officials are pushing back a bit against Trump’s display of authoritarianism.
Bowser, D.C. attorney general reject push by Bondi to name emergency police commissioner

In a signed order, Bondi said Cole will assume all powers and duties of the chief of police, and that the department’s top brass “must receive approval” from him before issuing any directives


August 15 at 12:26 AM 2025

U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi ordered the D.C. government to recognize Terry Cole, the head of the Drug Enforcement Administration, as D.C.’s “emergency police commissioner” Thursday night and ordered sweeping changes to D.C. police policies — directives that drew immediate legal pushback from the D.C. mayor and attorney general.

As part of President Donald Trump’s asserted takeover of the city’s police force, Bondi issued an order that said Cole will assume all powers and duties of the chief of police, including to direct department policy. And, in a first order of business, Bondi also ordered the mayor and police chief to immediately suspend the police department’s immigration policies limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities — a sign of the direction the Trump administration may try to take the department during an unprecedented assertion of federal power over the District.

D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser (D) and D.C. Attorney General Brian Schwalb called the order unlawful and suggested they will not comply — the first major pushback from the city’s top officials since Trump exerted control over the police in an executive order issued Monday.

Bowser said there is nothing in the law that would support conveying “the District’s personnel authority to a federal official.”

“Let us be clear about what the law requires during a Presidential declared emergency: it requires the mayor of Washington, DC to provide the services of the Metropolitan Police Department for federal purposes at the request of the President,” Bowser said in a statement. “We have followed the law.”

Schwalb sent a letter to D.C. Police Chief Pamela A. Smith on Thursday evening informing her that the “Bondi Order is unlawful,” and “you are not legally obligated to follow it.”

The pushback sets up a major power clash in entirely untested territory as the District clings to its limited home rule — granted under the 1973 Home Rule Act — as the Trump administration seeks to expand its control of law enforcement under the stated premise of a crime emergency, at a time when violent crime is at 30-year lows.

The attorney general’s order was the first set of explicit directives issued to Bowser and Smith after the two spent days insisting that they retained control of the police department and that the arrangement with the Trump administration was more of a collaborative partnership. The attorney general’s directive appeared designed to put to rest questions about who was at the top of the chain of command.

The Trump administration’s ramp-up of federal agents on city streets, including federal immigration authorities, has had residents increasingly on edge, with several lawmakers saying Thursday that the time had come to forcefully push back.

Trump on Monday named Cole to oversee the police department, though while federal agents surged in a mission to fight crime and unarmed National Guard troops deployed onto city streets, it was not until Bondi’s order that there had been explicit new federal directives.

The order came just hours after Smith showed an openness to offering greater cooperation with Immigration and Customs Enforcement in a new executive order.
Smith’s order expanded the allowable types of cooperation, allowing officers to share information with ICE about people D.C. police stopped but did not arrest and helping ICE to transport detainees — a move that outraged a number of D.C. council members.

“That’s a huge betrayal of our values as D.C. residents,” Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said in an interview. Smith’s order retained restrictions on helping ICE with immigration arrests or inquiring about people’s immigration status while in their custody — restrictions that reflect D.C. law.

But by Thursday night, Bondi rescinded Smith’s new order and suspended the existing D.C. police policies that had placed guardrails on cooperation with ICE — a dramatic policy shift in a deep-blue District that, during Trump’s first term, the mayor proudly called a “sanctuary city.”

The Justice Department said Bondi believed Smith’s order would allow D.C. to continue with some of its “sanctuary city” policies. In the order she issued Thursday night, Bondi rescinded Smith’s 2024 order limiting police inquiries into the immigration status of residents and one from 2023 that stopped police from making arrests solely for immigration violations.

“D.C. will not remain a sanctuary city actively shielding criminal aliens. It will not happen,” Bondi told Fox News’ Sean Hannity in an interview Thursday evening. “You must comply. You must give the information to our ICE — to our homeland security — officers. If they have information on an illegal alien living in D.C., they must give us that information.”

Multiple D.C. lawmakers immediately condemned Bondi’s order Thursday night.

“This order is a patently unlawful power grab that represents a break-the-glass moment for our democracy. It cannot and will not stand,” Council member Zachary Parker (D-Ward 5) said in a statement, arguing that Bondi did not have the power to change D.C. laws and policies.

Bondi’s order is likely to test the bounds of the D.C. Home Rule Act and, like Trump’s asserted takeover of the D.C. police department, it has no modern precedent.

The Home Rule Act says that the president may “direct” the mayor to provide him police services for federal purposes and that the mayor “shall provide” them to him. On Monday, Trump sent a letter to the mayor saying he was directing her to “submit to the President, through the Attorney General, the services of the Metropolitan Police force for federal purposes.”
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