Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Ceeboo's 'transcript' isn't a transcript. It's a memorandum cobbled together from notes taken by administration staffers, and then released to the public for maximum damage control.
Hmmmmmm? My assumption/understanding was that I was reading a transcript of the call (I assumed that these transcripts were handled by non-partisan career national security government folks. Hmmmmm?)
If what you write above is true (?) then it certainly motivates me to take a pause and proceed with caution.
Also, I'm going to go ahead and note hat Ceeboo can't explain why Biden's campaign is over now that the whistleblower's complaint has been released.
Exiled wrote:If there is a recording of the telephone conversation at issue, then let's see it, listen to it, and see what was taken out from the memo version, if anything substantial was. The whistleblower wasn't there and didn't hear the conversation.
That isn't what the document says. It says he was there for not all of the conversations. The Inspector General apparently got corroborating evidence from others to find his complaint credible.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Ceeboo's 'transcript' isn't a transcript. It's a memorandum cobbled together from notes taken by administration staffers, and then released to the public for maximum damage control. The only thing they did successfully was to give their base something to hold onto. After reading the whistleblower's complaint there just shouldn't be any doubt what Trump, his aides, Giuliani, and Barr were up to.
Also, I'm going to go ahead and note hat Ceeboo can't explain why Biden's campaign is over now that the whistleblower's complaint has been released. I also want to note that he's a verified liar.
- Doc
What? He's a verified liar because he forgot he called someone a bozo a couple of years ago?
I've disagreed with Ceeboo from time to time, mostly over politics. But I have apparently have a higher opinion of him than you do.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Ceeboo, there's been lots of confusion over the "transcript." The document that was released says that it is a "memorandum" compiled from people who were on the call and their notes. It isn't a word for word reporting of the conversation. I don't think we know who was on the call. The whistleblower complaint indicates to me it may have been more than the usual number, due to the fact that Trump's obsession with Biden had been an ongoing problem. I suspect we will learn in the course of the investigation who was on the call.
The whistleblower complaint refers to a word for word transcript. I'm not clear on whether that "transcript" is the memorandum we now have, or whether there is also a transcript.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Res Ipsa wrote:Ceeboo, there's been lots of confusion over the "transcript." The document that was released says that it is a "memorandum" compiled from people who were on the call and their notes. It isn't a word for word reporting of the conversation. I don't think we know who was on the call. The whistleblower complaint indicates to me it may have been more than the usual number, due to the fact that Trump's obsession with Biden had been an ongoing problem. I suspect we will learn in the course of the investigation who was on the call.
The whistleblower complaint refers to a word for word transcript. I'm not clear on whether that "transcript" is the memorandum we now have, or whether there is also a transcript.
EAllusion wrote: We're inching toward nuclear holocaust because slightly less than half the country voted for your crazy, opinonated uncle who is way too into right-wing news.
Well, unlike Trump, at least you are just an anonymous bozo posting your nonsense on a discussion board.
This holds up well. Not the frontline news at the moment, but what I said is still true today. I probably should've added "moron crime boss" in retrospect, but there's only so many descriptive words you can use, amiright?
The most interesting observation I've read that didn't occur to me until I read it was that the New York Times was sitting on enough of the elements of the story that they could've broke it some time ago and did not do so because they were too busy chasing a fake scandal in the name of false balance to realize what they had.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Ceeboo's 'transcript' isn't a transcript. It's a memorandum cobbled together from notes taken by administration staffers, and then released to the public for maximum damage control. The only thing they did successfully was to give their base something to hold onto. After reading the whistleblower's complaint there just shouldn't be any doubt what Trump, his aides, Giuliani, and Barr were up to.
Also, I'm going to go ahead and note hat Ceeboo can't explain why Biden's campaign is over now that the whistleblower's complaint has been released. I also want to note that he's a verified liar.
- Doc
What? He's a verified liar because he forgot he called someone a bozo a couple of years ago?
I've disagreed with Ceeboo from time to time, mostly over politics. But I have apparently have a higher opinion of him than you do.
No, he's a verified liar because I quoted him calling EA a bozo, and he said that wasn't him, even though I literally quoted him saying it. And then when I linked the url to the statement he gets all swoony because it was from a year and a half ago, which is besides the point I was making. The point is that Ceeboo was bitching about the political tone on this board, but he himself wasn't above engaging in name calling and lashing out.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
canpakes wrote:Ceeboo, what did you think when you read these other parts below?
"There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that. So whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it...It sounds horrible to me."
... and ...
"I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair, ... A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved."
