Kavanaugh and Perjury

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They should prosecute her.


How often does that happen?
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Xenophon wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:What? I can't make a joke back when someone takes a crap on a post? Boo on you.

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You can do whatever you want, brother. Just seems like you've been harping on moshka more than usual lately. Perhaps I just didn't get the joke, carry on.


I made 3 posts, two today, in direct response to his folksy non sequiturs. My bad.

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ajax18 wrote:
They should prosecute her.


How often does that happen?


How often does the woman who lied to the committee get prosecuted? It looks like once. :wink:

C’mon Ajax, you’ve complained about this a bunch. And she’s referred for criminal prosecution. And folks here that generally argue with you are agreeing with you. Don’t go all Eeyore on us. :biggrin:
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:What? I can't make a joke back when someone takes a crap on a post? Boo on you.- Doc


Xenophon wrote:You can do whatever you want, brother. Just seems like you've been harping on moshka more than usual lately. Perhaps I just didn't get the joke, carry on.


Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I made 3 posts, two today, in direct response to his folksy non sequiturs. My bad. - Doc


As an aside, I'd say that moshka's clever and often obscure literary references are one of the reasons I occasionally lurk. Sure, he can be hit-or-miss, but when it's a hit, it's pure gold.
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Re: Kavanaugh and Perjury

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Morley wrote:As an aside, I'd say that moshka's clever and often obscure literary references are one of the reasons I occasionally lurk. Sure, he can be hit-or-miss, but when it's a hit, it's pure gold.
Seconded. I think he raises a good point here too:
moksha wrote:I can't remember anything about this during the hearing. Did any of the Senators mention this letter during the hearing?
I'm seeing this trumpeted elsewhere as proof that any and all allegations against Kavanaugh are false. But I think it highlights how the whole thing should work; allegation is made, allegation is investigated, appropriate action taken from the findings of that investigation. This shows a working process, not a broken one.
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Xeno, agreed.
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Xenophon wrote:I'm seeing this trumpeted elsewhere as proof that any and all allegations against Kavanaugh are false. But I think it highlights how the whole thing should work; allegation is made, allegation is investigated, appropriate action taken from the findings of that investigation. This shows a working process, not a broken one.


Link? I'd like to read their thoughts on the matter.

eta: As to your second point you feel like the investigation into the other allegations worked?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Link? I'd like to read their thoughts on the matter.
I mean you can start with the President himself, there is a pretty strong implication in his tweet.
Donald Trump wrote:A vicious accuser of Justice Kavanaugh has just admitted that she was lying, her story was totally made up, or FAKE! Can you imagine if he didn’t become a Justice of the Supreme Court because of her disgusting False Statements. What about the others? Where are the Democrats on this?
I also saw it in places like /r/The_Donald and it was brought up to me in conversation at work. It isn't really an unexpected response, is it?
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:eta: As to your second point you feel like the investigation into the other allegations worked?

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I think the shortcomings of the Ford investigation were discussed and debated here already. I feel like barely the surface was scratched in that investigation. If nothing else there was no accusation from the FBI that she had made the whole thing up, was there?
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Xenophon wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Link? I'd like to read their thoughts on the matter.
I mean you can start with the President himself, there is a pretty strong implication in his tweet.
Donald Trump wrote:A vicious accuser of Justice Kavanaugh has just admitted that she was lying, her story was totally made up, or FAKE! Can you imagine if he didn’t become a Justice of the Supreme Court because of her disgusting False Statements. What about the others? Where are the Democrats on this?
I also saw it in places like /r/The_Donald and it was brought up to me in conversation at work. It isn't really an unexpected response, is it?

My bad. I took your statement of "I'm seeing this trumpeted elsewhere as proof that any and all allegations against Kavanaugh are false." too literally.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:eta: As to your second point you feel like the investigation into the other allegations worked?

- Doc
I think the shortcomings of the Ford investigation were discussed and debated here already. I feel like barely the surface was scratched in that investigation. If nothing else there was no accusation from the FBI that she had made the whole thing up, was there?


Why would the FBI say something like that? That's not what they do. I mean we have 59 pages of discussion about Ford, and if you're unmoved by Ford's ex-boyfriend who issued a sworn statement claiming three things: 1) Ford coached her friend on how to pass lie detector tests. 2) Ford flew recreationally all the time and never expressed any fear at all. 3) Ford never once mentioned any sexual assault, despite dating him for over five years, then I don't see the point of discussing it all over again.

The point of the update was just to demonstrate that #justbelieveher has serious flaws to it, not only philosophically, but legally. It's a bad strategy to employ.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Re: Kavanaugh and Perjury

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Who the Hell is Judy Munro-Leighton? I don't remember the Democrats using her accusation to attack Kavanaugh.
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