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Re: Thinking About Feminism
I’m still not quite sure what you’re trying to say in your OP and first response to SS, RI. <- In context to the recent kefuffle. Perhaps a reset is in order? Help an asshole out here.
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Re: Thinking About Feminism
Sure. As one asshole to another, when it comes to sexist speech, what’s your goal?Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:56 pmI’m still not quite sure what you’re trying to say in your OP and first response to SS, RI. <- In context to the recent kefuffle. Perhaps a reset is in order? Help an asshole out here.
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Re: Thinking About How to Stop Sexist Speech and Behavior
So...where are we at here?
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Re: Thinking About How to Stop Sexist Speech and Behavior
Doc asked me to explain the first two posts of the thread. They are are pretty long, so I started by asking him a question as a jumping off point.
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Re: Thinking About How to Stop Sexist Speech and Behavior
That, I assume. I'll watch for another jumping off point that is more suitable for me.Sure. As one asshole to another, when it comes to sexist speech, what’s your goal?
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Re: Thinking About How to Stop Sexist Speech and Behavior
Never mind, I'll make my own jumping off point.
This first. Analytics apparently used his sexist remark as a rhetorical device. That said, it can still be used to forward discussion. I've played catch up here and I still don't see that the discussion is being forwarded but rather in a stuck position.
In my view, it would be a good idea to first define sexism and feminism. I don't see where that has happened here and I see very little inquiry as to the thinking of contributors. Lots of questions but I don't see real probing.
So...
Sexism: Assumes male superiority.
Feminism: Assumes gender equality.
Stereotypical sexist remark: Your thinking seems cloudy today. Are you on your period or something?
Q: What statement can be made by a female to a male that carries the same inequitable punch that is intended to demean?
Make a list.
This first. Analytics apparently used his sexist remark as a rhetorical device. That said, it can still be used to forward discussion. I've played catch up here and I still don't see that the discussion is being forwarded but rather in a stuck position.
In my view, it would be a good idea to first define sexism and feminism. I don't see where that has happened here and I see very little inquiry as to the thinking of contributors. Lots of questions but I don't see real probing.
So...
Sexism: Assumes male superiority.
Feminism: Assumes gender equality.
Stereotypical sexist remark: Your thinking seems cloudy today. Are you on your period or something?
Q: What statement can be made by a female to a male that carries the same inequitable punch that is intended to demean?
Make a list.
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We only get stronger when we are lifting something that is heavier than what we are used to. ~ KF
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Re: Thinking About How to Stop Sexist Speech and Behavior
Sexism: Assumes male superiority.
Feminism: Assumes gender equality.
What functions do these serve?
Feminism: Assumes gender equality.
What functions do these serve?
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Re: Thinking About How to Stop Sexist Speech and Behavior
The closest parallel I could think of was “You’re thinking with your dick.” It’s an insult that uses a part of the body, but it doesn’t pack the same inequitable punch. It doesn’t reinforce a stereotype that has kept men out of positions of power.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:05 pmNever mind, I'll make my own jumping off point.
This first. Analytics apparently used his sexist remark as a rhetorical device. That said, it can still be used to forward discussion. I've played catch up here and I still don't see that the discussion is being forwarded but rather in a stuck position.
In my view, it would be a good idea to first define sexism and feminism. I don't see where that has happened here and I see very little inquiry as to the thinking of contributors. Lots of questions but I don't see real probing.
So...
Sexism: Assumes male superiority.
Feminism: Assumes gender equality.
Stereotypical sexist remark: Your thinking seems cloudy today. Are you on your period or something?
Q: What statement can be made by a female to a male that carries the same inequitable punch that is intended to demean?
Make a list.
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Re: Thinking About How to Stop Sexist Speech and Behavior
Bingo bango. It preserves male dominance. Which I think (look up there) is a function of sexism.Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:57 pmThe closest parallel I could think of was “You’re thinking with your dick.” It’s an insult that uses a part of the body, but it doesn’t pack the same inequitable punch. It doesn’t reinforce a stereotype that has kept men out of positions of power.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 10:05 pmNever mind, I'll make my own jumping off point.
This first. Analytics apparently used his sexist remark as a rhetorical device. That said, it can still be used to forward discussion. I've played catch up here and I still don't see that the discussion is being forwarded but rather in a stuck position.
In my view, it would be a good idea to first define sexism and feminism. I don't see where that has happened here and I see very little inquiry as to the thinking of contributors. Lots of questions but I don't see real probing.
So...
Sexism: Assumes male superiority.
Feminism: Assumes gender equality.
Stereotypical sexist remark: Your thinking seems cloudy today. Are you on your period or something?
Q: What statement can be made by a female to a male that carries the same inequitable punch that is intended to demean?
Make a list.
LIGHT HAS A NAME
We only get stronger when we are lifting something that is heavier than what we are used to. ~ KF
Slava Ukraini!
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Re: Thinking About How to Stop Sexist Speech and Behavior
Hey your thinking seems really cloudy today. Whatsamatter? Not getting any?
Even that, objectifies women and places them in a submissive role.
Even that, objectifies women and places them in a submissive role.
LIGHT HAS A NAME
We only get stronger when we are lifting something that is heavier than what we are used to. ~ KF
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We only get stronger when we are lifting something that is heavier than what we are used to. ~ KF
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