Doc, Homless in LA

[_Res Ipsa]

Markk, how do you know that most of the homeless people in LA are on the steeets because they don’t use their money wisely?

[_karl61]

Markk wrote:

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We have shelters...it is growing at a staggering rate. Karl was in the shelter system."

I wasn't at one of the missions in downtown but almost there. I was able to rent a top or bottom bunk at a home in Los Angeles where there were two bunk beds to a room at first, but then when they evicted people for no payment it went down to one bunk bed per room. A few weeks I had the whole room to my self and I was in heaven.

Many homeless people who use drugs choose tents over shelters/mission (Midnight Mission, Fred Jordon Mission, LA Mission) because you can't shoot/use drugs or drink alcohol at a shelter/mission. You then need to ask yourself what percentage of homeless people use drugs, and that I do not know. For many homeless drugs are the closest thing they have to a friend, so they aren't likely to give it up. They want their drugs and they want to be left alone. They do it one day at a time which very quickly turns into years.

Also, If you stay at a motel you can only stay 28 days because the owners don't want to give anyone special legal status which they get if they stay 30 days. If you stay 30 days and stop paying rent on 31 it will take months to get you out, and the Marshall's office will evict you after a Judge makes the order, but if you stop paying rent at 21 days the manager will just call the local police.

[_Res Ipsa]

Markk, I don’t know what point you’re trying to make with the housing prices. Both LA and Seattle have housing prices that are multiples of the National average. Both have had an influx of relatively well paid folks that have driven housing prices up. Both have experienced gentrification that had affected the availability of places for lower income people to work. Both have experienced sharp increases in homelessness over the last few years. Both have homeless living in tents on the streets or in encampments. What’s happening in LA isn’t unique. It’s just more visible because of the relative absence of shelters.

[Guest]

Markk, how do you know that most of the homeless people in LA are on the steeets because they don’t use their money wisely?

Because they are on the streets.

[_Markk]

Not much, I re-read it and misread Glads point. I retrack my post.

Got it. Thanks.

But where did you get your Seattle vs. LA average home price numbers? I can't find anything that comes close to matching them.

I googled "average home price" Seattle/Los Angeles

I believe I pasted it direct, try pasting what I pasted in the search engine?

[_Morley]

Try again...the average home price in seattle is 699K...LA average is 570k, so much for that theory.

But where did you get your Seattle vs. LA average home price numbers? I can't find anything that comes close to matching them.

I googled "average home price" Seattle/Los Angeles

I believe I pasted it direct, try pasting what I pasted in the search engine?

Markk, in a comparison of average Seattle and Los Angeles home prices, no such numbers exist.

[_Markk]

Try again...the average home price in seattle is 699K...LA average is 570k, so much for that theory.

But where did you get your Seattle vs. LA average home price numbers? I can't find anything that comes close to matching them.

I googled "average home price" Seattle/Los Angeles

I believe I pasted it direct, try pasting what I pasted in the search engine?

Markk, in a comparison of average Seattle and Los Angeles home prices, no such numbers exist.

II don't no what to tell you...

here try this

Seattle still leads nation in home prices, and it'll cost you - seattlepi.com
https://www.seattlepi.com/.../Seattle-s ... 389594.p...

Nov 28, 2017 - There was a time when San Francisco, Los Angeles and New York were synonymous with being some of the most frenzied housing markets in the country. And while they may be leading the nation in prices, Seattle is doing its best to give them a run for their money. According to the latest S&P CoreLogic ...

There are all kind of numbers out there..I wish I would have linked you the first time, I can't find sites I used (one for LA and one for Seattle), but to be honest, I didn't try hard. If you think I am somehow lying or something, and you need really need these...let me know and I will try harder later when I have more time. I can probably search my history.

[_Morley]

II don't no what to tell you...

here try this

Seattle still leads nation in home prices, and it'll cost you - seattlepi.com
https://www.seattlepi.com/.../Seattle-s ... 389594.p...

Dead link. Page not found.

[_Gadianton]

Glad and others have this belief these people are folks just down on their luck...it is not like that at all.

Yes, if rent was 25 dollars a night, they choose that over a tent...and there are cheap motels in some cities that do that. These people live from day to day...most could not afford a 300 dollar a month apartment with the responsibilities that come with it.

No Mark, not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the 23% were somehow paying that 300$ a month rent in 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015 - because they WEREN'T on the streets until 2016. How is it, mark, that they had managed to have a place to live all those years prior to becoming the 23% in 2016?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Gad,

If you were homeless in LA what would you do to stop being homeless?

- Doc