US pulling out of North Syria

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Re: US pulling out of N. Syria

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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:These data remain withheld."
also canpakes wrote: we are now committing to an almost 20% increase in personnel from the number for the last reported quarter in 2017

again, since you're carrying water for yet another poster..you at least curious about the tally of wars stopped and troops home?

Like I said upthread - I’m sure that you can provide this information. Please, proceed to tell us about the troop number changes, and all of the wars that Trump has ‘ended’.
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canpakes wrote: Please, proceed to tell us about the troop number changes, and all of the wars that Trump has ‘ended’.

So, by your request you are now conceding your above assertion?

canpakes wrote:These data remain withheld."

or are you holding fast that such data is unknowable and thus neither of us can prove otherwise?
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Re: US pulling out of N. Syria

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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote: Please, proceed to tell us about the troop number changes, and all of the wars that Trump has ‘ended’.

So, by your request you are now conceding your above assertion ?

Goodness. Always with the comprehension thing. : )

I’m waiting for you to give us some data that speaks to your claims about all of the troops coming home and all of the wars that have been ‘ended’.

canpakes wrote:These data remain withheld."

or are you holding fast that such data is unknowable and thus neither of us can prove otherwise?

Argue with the source of that information if you disagree with it. Alternately, feel free to post what you have, and then the data can be discussed.
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Re: US pulling out of North Syria

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subs, you seem to need some time to back up your BS claim.

I’ll go grab a cup of coffee while you figure that out. BRB.
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Re: US pulling out of N. Syria

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EAllusion wrote:There's several layers to this. The first is that the Kurds are US allies in the Middle East to act as a counterweight to forces aligned against US interests.

What is US interest? Oil and kissing Netanyahu's butt?

EAllusion wrote:the Trump admin, convinced them to lower their defenses in exchange for promises on security then broke those promises leaving them to slaughter. That has consequences beyond the fate of the Kurds. It tells any nation US commitments aren't worth squat.

That is completely messed up.

EAllusion wrote: It's a god damn disaster apart from whether you think the US should, in a vacuum, protect the Kurds.

Yes I can imagine, but many parts of the world are also a disaster. The US never intervenes in countries like Rwanda when a big genocide happens. I do not understand why involvement in the middle east is a priority.
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Re: US pulling out of N. Syria

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EAllusion wrote:
subgenius wrote:Yeah, check that endless wars bit. But we can do a net tally of how many wars he has ended and how many troops have come home if it will make a difference to ya.
Those troops were moved while the US committed almost 2000 more to Saudi Arabia.

DoD reporting today that the US troops being removed from Syria will be transferred to Iraq, as opposed to ‘coming home’.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
EAllusion wrote:There's several layers to this. The first is that the Kurds are US allies in the Middle East to act as a counterweight to forces aligned against US interests.

What is US interest? Oil and kissing Netanyahu's butt?

EAllusion wrote:the Trump admin, convinced them to lower their defenses in exchange for promises on security then broke those promises leaving them to slaughter. That has consequences beyond the fate of the Kurds. It tells any nation US commitments aren't worth squat.

That is completely messed up.

EAllusion wrote: It's a god damn disaster apart from whether you think the US should, in a vacuum, protect the Kurds.

Yes I can imagine, but many parts of the world are also a disaster. The US never intervenes in countries like Rwanda when a big genocide happens. I do not understand why involvement in the middle east is a priority.


So why should the middle east be a priority?
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DoubtingThomas wrote:So why should the middle east be a priority?

I wonder the same thing.
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Dr. Shades wrote:I wonder the same thing.

I know. In my opinion the US military should go to Mexico and fight the paramilitary drug cartels.
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Re: US pulling out of N. Syria

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Dr. Shades wrote:
DoubtingThomas wrote:So why should the middle east be a priority?

I wonder the same thing.

Well, how about the fact that the US has an ally there that even Trump would not be stupid enough to think of dumping, an ally surrounded by potentially hostile and often unstable states who would like to dismantle it, and which also has a major internal threat, oh ... and which also has nuclear weapons. And it's also the region from which a lot of the world's oil comes, on the supply of which the prosperity of much of the world (and hence of the US) depends, and ... well, you get the picture.

That is, of course, written on the assumption that the US is not planning to translocate itself to Mars in the near future, and wishes to preserve something like its present level of prosperity and security.
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