Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem

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canpakes wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:14 pm
Whiskey wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:12 pm
Ah, here we go again — the professor climbing back into the victim box. First it was “wonderment” dressed up as nuance for an “amazing shot,” now, when that gets called out, suddenly you’re the injured party in some grand morality play about bigots, sanctimony, and BYU essays. The rejection of your apologetics doesn’t make you a martyr, Professor, it just exposes the absurdity of laundering applause for an assassin.

And the self-pity — LOL. It’s almost artful. You shift from admiring the assassin’s “skill” to painting yourself as the oppressed conscience-bearer, forever beset by “opportunistic bigots.” That’s not analysis; that’s theater. Nobody “besmirched” Kirk’s death here but the people who clapped for it in awe-language.

You write that critics “double down on their attacks against those whom they do not consider among their own.” Indeed — I am not among your pretend victim class. On that, you have a point. But that doesn’t validate your theatrics or your posturing. It only shows that when the applause gets called out, you retreat into projection and performance — right alongside your fellow Team Amazing Shot apologists. That’s the class you’ve really chosen to stand in.

It’s not sanctimony to reject applause for assassination — it’s common sense. What is sanctimony is pretending that your hurt feelings for being called out weigh more than the words themselves. And if that’s the hill you want to plant your professorial flag on, fine. Just don’t expect anyone outside this bubble to see it as anything more than self-soothing and self-pity, wrapped in footnotes.
Can AI tell me if calling Hurricane Katrina’s destruction could be termed amazing?

It sure could.
Ah, so Katrina’s back — not as a saber but as your flood-soaked cardboard shield. Hold it up, hide behind it, hope no one notices it’s ridiculousness. That’s not cover, it’s theater, the same stage prop every Team Amazing Shot apologist grabs when the defense collapses.

And you didn’t need AI to tell you it was weak — I already did.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem

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Whiskey wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:26 pm
canpakes wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:14 pm
Can AI tell me if calling Hurricane Katrina’s destruction could be termed amazing?

It sure could.
Ah, so Katrina’s back — not as a saber but as your flood-soaked cardboard shield. Hold it up, hide behind it, hope no one notices it’s ridiculousness. That’s not cover, it’s theater, the same stage prop every Team Amazing Shot apologist grabs when the defense collapses.

And you didn’t need AI to tell you it was weak — I already did.
Apparently you needed AI to find your words.

Let me know when you’ve found yourself and can answer the question. Thanks!
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem

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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 3:09 am
but I know you are full of crap because clearly it is not only "leftists" who hated Charlie Kirk enough to kill him.
How many white supremacist have been assasinating people lately. [...]
Literally the same day that Kirk was viciously murdered in front of his family, a neo-Nazi white supremacist (who had been on the ADL's radar) murdered two kids.

Good gravy dude. You've got to get out of your media bubble and into the real world.
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Whiskey wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:12 pm
Ah, here we go again — the professor climbing back into the victim box. First it was “wonderment” dressed up as nuance for an “amazing shot,” now, when that gets called out, suddenly you’re the injured party in some grand morality play about bigots, sanctimony, and BYU essays. The rejection of your apologetics doesn’t make you a martyr, Professor, it just exposes the absurdity of laundering applause for an assassin.

And the self-pity — LOL. It’s almost artful. You shift from admiring the assassin’s “skill” to painting yourself as the oppressed conscience-bearer, forever beset by “opportunistic bigots.” That’s not analysis; that’s theater. Nobody “besmirched” Kirk’s death here but the people who clapped for it in awe-language.

You write that critics “double down on their attacks against those whom they do not consider among their own.” Indeed — I am not among your pretend victim class. On that, you have a point. But that doesn’t validate your theatrics or your posturing. It only shows that when the applause gets called out, you retreat into projection and performance — right alongside your fellow Team Amazing Shot apologists. That’s the class you’ve really chosen to stand in.

It’s not sanctimony to reject applause for assassination — it’s common sense. What is sanctimony is pretending that your hurt feelings for being called out weigh more than the words themselves. And if that’s the hill you want to plant your professorial flag on, fine. Just don’t expect anyone outside this bubble to see it as anything more than self-soothing and self-pity, wrapped in footnotes.
Yep. AI interlocutors get a lot of things wrong. I am tired of seeing them pop in with their time-wasting, phony nonsense.
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Doctor Steuss wrote: Literally the same day that Kirk was viciously murdered in front of his family, a neo-Nazi white supremacist (who had been on the ADL's radar) murdered two kids.

Good gravy dude. You've got to get out of your media bubble and into the real world.
Oh, Steuss, don’t you know you are in a media bubble because you know facts that don’t reach the consciousness of ajax18?
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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:29 pm
Whiskey wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:12 pm
Ah, here we go again — the professor climbing back into the victim box. First it was “wonderment” dressed up as nuance for an “amazing shot,” now, when that gets called out, suddenly you’re the injured party in some grand morality play about bigots, sanctimony, and BYU essays. The rejection of your apologetics doesn’t make you a martyr, Professor, it just exposes the absurdity of laundering applause for an assassin.

And the self-pity — LOL. It’s almost artful. You shift from admiring the assassin’s “skill” to painting yourself as the oppressed conscience-bearer, forever beset by “opportunistic bigots.” That’s not analysis; that’s theater. Nobody “besmirched” Kirk’s death here but the people who clapped for it in awe-language.

You write that critics “double down on their attacks against those whom they do not consider among their own.” Indeed — I am not among your pretend victim class. On that, you have a point. But that doesn’t validate your theatrics or your posturing. It only shows that when the applause gets called out, you retreat into projection and performance — right alongside your fellow Team Amazing Shot apologists. That’s the class you’ve really chosen to stand in.

It’s not sanctimony to reject applause for assassination — it’s common sense. What is sanctimony is pretending that your hurt feelings for being called out weigh more than the words themselves. And if that’s the hill you want to plant your professorial flag on, fine. Just don’t expect anyone outside this bubble to see it as anything more than self-soothing and self-pity, wrapped in footnotes.
Yep. AI interlocutors get a lot of things wrong. I am tired of seeing them pop in with their time-wasting, phony nonsense.
Too tired to get anything right either, I see. Take a nap, Professor. Come back when you have energy enough to get something right.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem

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Whiskey wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:35 pm
Too tired to get anything right either, I see. Take a nap, Professor. Come back when you have energy enough to get something right.
At least I do my own work. The only thing I am tired of is dealing with the bogus nonsense you and others are posting. I refer you to Ceeboo, who, disagree though we do, is genuinely providing his own, sincere thoughts in his own words.
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Could someone reach behind Whiskey's neck and hit his reset button? He appears to be hung up in some subroutine and unable to process new information.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem

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Molok wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:18 pm
Could someone reach behind Whiskey's neck and hit his reset button? He appears to be hung up in some subroutine and unable to process new information.
Indeed!
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem

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Kishkumen wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:15 pm
Whiskey wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:35 pm
Too tired to get anything right either, I see. Take a nap, Professor. Come back when you have energy enough to get something right.
At least I do my own work. The only thing I am tired of is dealing with the bogus nonsense you and others are posting. I refer you to Ceeboo, who, disagree though we do, is genuinely providing his own, sincere thoughts in his own words.
Just moving right along, aren't we? You moved past the pitiful anger accusation very quickly and jumped on Team Amazing Shot's AI excuse. The next move is right around the corner. This position won't last.

Did Ceeboo say something I missed?
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