Kavanaugh and Perjury

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I literally have words typed out you can look at. How you get to your bizarre wonderland of nutjoberry is beyond me.

Those are your words. They're right there.

eta: I should point out that EA is taking the accusation that Kavanaugh was a sexual assaulter seriously enough that he keeps making posts that insinuate, quite clearly, he believes the accuser. I don't. When I say Kavanaugh was like us I mean it in the sense that as a 17-year-old he went to parties, drank beer, probably did stupid kid stuff, and probably messed around a bit. I don't believe he assaulted a 15-year-old at a party, unlike EA.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

I literally have words typed out you can look at. How you get to your bizarre wonderland of nutjoberry is beyond me.

Those are your words. They're right there.

- Doc

You are misreading "if that's what happened" to refer to "Kavanaugh claims he was no where near here" instead of the description of what the allegation alleges that paragraph is in reference to. Context should make it clear what is being discussed. For example, the next sentence also uses "that" to clearly refer to the description of the allegation. But if you can't do that, take this post as a clarification.

[_EAllusion]

eta: I should point out that EAllusion is taking the accusation that Kavanaugh was a sexual assaulter seriously enough that he keeps making posts that insinuate, quite clearly, he believes the accuser. I don't. When I say Kavanaugh was like us I mean it in the sense that as a 17-year-old he went to parties, drank beer, probably did stupid kid stuff, and probably messed around a bit. I don't believe he assaulted a 15-year-old at a party, unlike EAllusion.

- Doc

How would it be in any way relevant to say that Kavanaugh probably had fumbling sexual advances as a teenager unless that is in specific reference to the allegation under discussion? That's a complete non-sequitur outside of that context. It's not as though Kavanaugh is arguing that he was with her at the party, made a move on her, but it wasn't like she described and he was misinterpreted. He's saying he had nothing to do with the situation. If what's alleged is true, that's attempted rape, not a fumbling sexual advance.

I have to keep using caveats that explicitly spell out if it the allegation is true, even though I shouldn't have to do that, specifically to avoid being accused of reflexively assuming the allegation is true. It's not my fault you or others have to keep using horrible defenses of Kavanaugh. You clearly don't believe the accuser. You've contrasted her with "real victims" which means you think she's not telling the truth or you think what she describes is not victimization. Your case for that leaves quite a lot to be desired on that front, but you've all but abandoned it to throw up random arguments spiraling through conservativedom.

[_EAllusion]

To the point you willingly destroy a man's reputation that has nothing to do with Trump's persona? Kavanaugh was like any of us at 17. We were all fumbling around with one another, and any of our actions could be twisted into a vicious #metoo. When I was a Senior in HS, I had a girl while we were in the back of a car, with my buddies up front no less (I think we were headed back from a football game, but the details are fuzzy), stick my finger in her mouth. She was trying to be sexy or something, but I was put off by it. She then began to kiss on me and then grapbbed my crotch. She eventually got inside my pants. My dudes up front cheered it on. I never consented, and I wasn't comfortable. I didn't say anything, but I certainly didn't enjoy it what with being a Mormon boy who took church seriously.

Was the girl a rapist? Was I sexually assaulted? What if this girl were a CEO today and I accused her of attempted rape? Or a judge being appointed by Trump, but I felt it was my duty to take her down? Would it be fair to destroy her life because she fumbled around with me in the back of a car one night?

This is the world we're creating now, and I'd be pretty ____ careful if I were the adults who think this perversion of justice is acceptable because they have a goal in mind.

- Doc

Just Doc randomly talking about how we are all Kavanaugh and anyone can have innocent sexual behavior be twisted into an unfair #metoo takedown. He's mentioning it for no reason in particular since this has nothing to do with anything Kavanaugh is accused of in the biggest news story in the country at the moment. Which is weird, because the very first sentence opens up with Kavanaugh's reputation being destroyed in reference to that specific allegation. It's not like the person he is responding to was talking about a different one that doesn't exist.

If Kavanaugh is taken down an an allegation of attempted rape against a backdrop of being a serial liar with shady activities, what's to stop someone from taking me down that one time I went in for a kiss and was rejected? Riddle me that, poindexter!

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

D'oh! There he goes again! What a wonderful little world you've created for yourself where everyone else is just a non-playing character and you're on God mode reading their minds and dictating their reality to them!

I bow humbly to EA's superiority complex, and cede whatever retarded point he keeps inventing.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

Stay classy Doc.

[_DoubtingThomas]

As to why an investigation is disgusting is because the accused was 17-years-old and it in no way shape or form relates to the man today.

I agree, but a violent attempted rape is a very serious crime. All serious accusations need to be investigated. A 17 year old is not a child, a 17 year old is old enough to join the army and is old enough to work in construction. In Missouri a 16 year old was given a life sentence for robbery. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/missouri-d ... -year-old/, the poor guy didn't kill or rape anyone.

I am not saying Kavanugh is guilty, he may be completely innocent, but an investigation is necessary.

. The idea that people can be blown up by activists for something that's unprovable, from a party that took place 35 years ago is just filthy. Ms. Ford is basically calling Kavanaugh a rapist based on a poorly recollected memory; why you think anyone else would have any sort of reliable recall of the same event is bizarre.

It is likely unprovable, but we do not know that yet. We need an investigation to know.

[_DoubtingThomas]

This must make you a little conflicted Doubting Thomas. On the one hand you're anti conservative and don't want to see another on the supreme court, which I understand though obviously don't share your desires. On the other hand you must see the where the tide of radical feminism is leading. Listen to Michael Savage if you're still unsure. Have you ever seen the Wicker man?

Radical feminists are still better than conservatives.

[_subgenius]

We need an investigation to know.

Lets see, no witnesses, no forensics, not even a meaningful narrative...but solely based on a mysterious unjustified partisan accusation you think an investigation is warranted.
Yep, you got dat emotional hair fire.

But hey, lets make this a safe space for your obviously fragile intellect. Why don't you describe how one might "investigate" this accusation?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

We need an investigation to know.

Lets see, no witnesses, no forensics, not even a meaningful narrative...but solely based on a mysterious unjustified partisan accusation you think an investigation is warranted.
Yep, you got dat emotional hair fire.

But hey, lets make this a safe space for your obviously fragile intellect. Why don't you describe how one might "investigate" this accusation?

It's just the oddest thing to see these people repeat over and over again that Kavanaugh may not be guilty, but let's investigate him anyway. Like. WTF? How in the “F” are you going to investigate this? There's literally no way to do it other than, I dunno, take their statements, one of which flatly rejects the accusation happened, at all. The other guy in this equation denies it, too. That's it.

Yet in this bizarro world we live in people insinuate heavily Kavanaugh is guilty, that he's a rapist, that even if something happened at the party it's presumed to be the worst possible scenario, and based on a flimsy, clearly partisan effort to derail a Trump pick, they'll destroy a man's reputation, his family's reputation, torch his career path, and do it all with a little damned smirk and a shrug of the shoulders.

That's damned evil.

Look at the mentally ill poster known as EA. He called me a rapist. Like, what level of damned retarded do you have to be to read the anecdote or my comments and then conclude I'm a rapist? That's pro-level dumbshittery, and the Left has embraced this as the new normal.

It's not damned normal. It's anything but normal. It's damned wrong and scary, and if any of you non-insane people don't see what's happening I feel bad for you if the day ever comes a radical socialist feminist accuses you of something and everyone #justbelieversthem.

Crazy times...

- Doc