Shut the “F” Up, Hillary

[_Markk]

LOL, and your option put in a leader that will let a nine year old pick her cabinet member? LOL...I hope you read that story

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Now there's a leader for you....

Not sure how I missed this the first time - maybe because you made another thread about it.

So yeah, Markk. Your argument is that the ____ up who won't take anyone's advice is a better leader than someone willing to listen to anyone.

Jersey Girl is right. You lack depth. You're probably one of these people who's been conned into believing Trump is good at business. You really ____ believe that nonsense, don't you?

I guess you didn't hear about all the inheritance money he's lost over the years. He's a failure as a businessman. It cost him around 400 million of his father's dollars to convince rubes like you he knows what he's doing.

He's only good at one thing, Markk. Fooling idiots.

Well as far as Trump being good at business...he is certainly doing better than anyone here. I have no idea as to whether or not he is a billionaire or not...he is certainly a millionaire. Many times over. So in those regards yes he is a very good businessman, and yes I believe that, if I am wrong, I don't really care at this point...it is much too late for that.

As far as depth goes, I am maybe the most object one in this little group of posters. I can admit the good things he does and the poor things he does...I admit we don't have very much of a choice...but the idiot I voted for beat the idiot you voted for rather handily, and my idiot is a well known idiot with even his own going after him...and your idiot still lost and is still crying and blaming it on the Russians and "rubes" like you believed it hook line and sinker, while the idiots you support are doing nothing but going after my idiot while having no other focus or plan that I know of.

And what is even more telling, my idiot has a very good chance of beating your idiot/s in November...Joe, Larry,
Bernie Moe, and Warren Curly. But you never know maybeBloomberg Curly Joe, or Pete Shep, can save the day and beat my Trump evening game show host and registered narcissist, billionairemillionaire ex-playboy.

The only depth I see from you and some of the others here, is blind allegiance to an old man that can't even put together a coherent sentence and needs a young VP because he might die. Another old man that just had a heart attack and wants to give everybody free everything, and who is being sabotaged by his own party (like Trump was), and a woman that will let kids do her job and lies about things that aren't even important to getting elected, and is nothing more than a kids camp counselor giving cheers... (LOL at least make your lies count like the rest of these idiots, including Trump and every other president that has lived that I have heard).

My allegiance is not blind, I can admit Trump is a arrogant, BS-ing, narcissistic businessman...but he is getting things done and we are in good shape and moving in the direction that is good in my opinion...at least for things I care about, (a get you disagree).

Is that "depth," maybe, maybe not, but you guys are only as deep as your talking points let you be and by adhering to what you are told to believe. Heck you even admitted you have no idea what the goal is of your party of choice...and you say I have no depth and am a rube?..Well maybe I am a rube, and have little depth compared to your no depth, but at least my allegiance isn't blind. I know the pig pen I support stinks, but you seem to somehow believe your pig pen smells good...when in fact you even admittedly said you didn't even care or know what the goals of your pig pen are?

There's a lesson in here somewhere, and someday we might find out what it is, but at this point I am just going to be as honest as I can with myself and do the best I can having to deal and trust these idiots, flawed people like you and I, to run our country. And in understanding my view, please understand I think these people are just that people like you and I...nobody special...only history and death make idiots people great and perfect.

Love ya man, I hope the game is a good one, I know the food and drink will be good.

[_Chap]

Well as far as Trump being good at business...he is certainly doing better than anyone here. I have no idea as to whether or not he is a billionaire or not...he is certainly a millionaire. Many times over. So in those regards yes he is a very good businessman

Trump inherited his money, and in real terms has done little to increase its value over what he would have got by simply investing it in a tracker fund. That makes him, frankly, not much of a businessman at all.

Bloomberg's father was a book keeper for a dairy company. A recent estimate of his wealth is close to 60 billion dollars. He is the 14th richest person in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bloomberg#Wealth

As for Trump? There are no truly reliable estimates of his wealth, but the more reputable the source the lower they tend to be. It's a lot less than Bloomberg's, probably by an order of magnitude, in any case. And he is no great businessman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of ... erformance

A 2016 analysis of Trump's business career in The Economist concluded that his performance since 1985 had been "mediocre compared with the stock market and property in New York".

What he is good at is lying about himself on a massive scale. Oh, and he is quite good at making money out of being President, I'll give you that. Is that the kind of President the US needs at the present time, do you think?

[_DoubtingThomas]

Well as far as Trump being good at business...he is certainly doing better than anyone here. I have no idea as to whether or not he is a billionaire or not...he is certainly a millionaire. Many times over. So in those regards yes he is a very good businessman, and yes I believe that, if I am wrong, I don't really care at this point...it is much too late for that.

Good business men do not go bankrupt, they make a profit. If I had a rich father I would be many times richer Trump. The guy doesn't even know where Kansas city is.

[_Markk]

How much did he inherit...most accounts state he has around 3 billion...how much did he inherit?

many very successful businessmen use bankruptcy laws to bounce back. Buffet has made investments in companies that go BR, and had to sell at big losses.

https://www.top-business-degrees.net/10 ... ankruptcy/

Again how much did DJT inherit?

Your arguments are just so narrow and only focus on your hatred for Trump...you should stick with things like he was a billionaire "playboy" or is a narcissist...which can't be defended and in my opinion are true.

[_Jersey Girl]

As far as depth goes, I am maybe the most object one in this little group of posters. I can admit the good things he does and the poor things he does...I admit we don't

[_canpakes]

How much did he inherit...most accounts state he has around 3 billion...how much did he inherit?

Investopedia's estimate falls in line with what Chap is stating. We can't know for certain, because Trump won't ever reveal his taxes, because, he's got nothing to hide... he's just shy. Or something like that. : )

many very successful businessmen use bankruptcy laws to bounce back. Buffet has made investments in companies that go BR, and had to sell at big losses. .

Funny thing is, even after pawning off over a billion dollars in bankruptcy debts on the rest of America, Trump's fortune still doesn't match what he'd have if he had just put his family dollars into a S&P Index fund for the last decade or two.

The funny thing about starting out with a lot of free money is that you can lose millions and be a pretty mediocre - even a poor - 'businessman', but there are always plenty of folks dazzled by the dollars still left to believe that you're a "good businessman".

[_Morley]

How much did he inherit...most accounts state he has around 3 billion...how much did he inherit?

many very successful businessmen use bankruptcy laws to bounce back. Buffet has made investments in companies that go BR, and had to sell at big losses.

https://www.top-business-degrees.net/10 ... ankruptcy/

Again how much did DJT inherit?

Your arguments are just so narrow and only focus on your hatred for Trump...you should stick with things like he was a billionaire "playboy" or is a narcissist...which can't be defended and in my opinion are true.

Markk, go back and actually read and look at the links in Chap's post. People get frustrated trying to converse with you because you don't actually read.

[_Markk]

Markk, go back and actually read and look at the links in Chap's post. People get frustrated trying to converse with you because you don't actually read.

I read it...mine was a rhetorical question. Even if he inherited 400 million which is debatable, he is worth a few billion or more..which makes him a pretty good business man.

He has built a Brand that is also very good in regards to bushiness...

People get upset with me because I don't fall in line with the mostly liberal talking points, and dare question the status quo of the forum.

It is funny that folks here, unless you are a billionaire and own high end properties all over the world, are somehow saying Trump is not a good businessman.

You can argue he is a crooked businessman, a shrewed businessman, an narcissist, childlike tweet skills, or bad hair and orange skin...but hardly a bad business man.

[_Chap]

Markk, go back and actually read and look at the links in Chap's post. People get frustrated trying to converse with you because you don't actually read.

I read it...mine was a rhetorical question. Even if he inherited 400 million which is debatable, he is worth a few billion or more..which makes him a pretty good business man.

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You can argue he is a crooked businessman, a shrewed businessman, an narcissist, childlike tweet skills, or bad hair and orange skin...but hardly a bad business man.

Look Markk: I think we can agree that if you inherit money you count as a good businessman if what you do with the money you inherited makes it grow markedly faster than it would if you just dumped it in an index tracker fund and left it there?

OK?

Well, Trump has failed to do that - see the link below in my previous post, which I will now quote for your benefit.

Therefore, Trump is not a good businessman.

[Trump] is no great businessman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_of ... erformance

A 2016 analysis of Trump's business career in The Economist concluded that his performance since 1985 had been "mediocre compared with the stock market and property in New York".

And as another poster has pointed out, no bank in the US except one will lend him money nowadays ... except Deutsche Bank, which has a very 'special' relationship wit Russian oligarchs. Again, not the sign of a great businessman, is it?

[_Markk]

He took somewhere between a million and 400 million, depending on which account is true, and turned it into a few billion or more...not to mention created a world wide brand that makes millions for him and his family. That is good business anyway you cut it. He has made horrible deals, as do most businessmen, but overall he has advanced his fortune.

Quoting wiki, who is quoting a reporter from the post, is hardly a litmus test for your assertion. Making Millions into Billions is pretty good business in my opinion. Getting a highly rated TV show for 14 years is good business. I have no idea if it was good or not, I only watched one episode, but 14 years is 14 years and it helped build his brand.