Trump owes Warren $1 million. Will he pay his debt?

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Re: Trump owes Warren $1 million. Will he pay his debt?

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subgenius wrote:
EAllusion wrote:...Democrats don't have a problem appealing to a majority of people or voters. They consistently do that. They have a problem with where those people are located. ...

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location? yes, location...perhaps if the Democrats appealed to a majority of voters outside the State of California they would have less problem with "where those people are located"?

I understand that Democrats do their best to bus "those people" to other locations....or did you mean that "those people" are located somewhere other than the United States?

Democrats win the majority of votes for House of Representatives more often than not and have done so while losing the total number of seats handily. This isn't specifically about California as that phenomenon occurs within specific states just as well. The same phenomenon even occurs inside of state legislatures. For example, in Wisconsin, Democrats won the majority of state Assembly votes in 2012 by around 200,000 votes, but lost almost 2/3rds of the seats. That was entirely caused by gerrymandering put in effect in 2011. If Democrats win the House vote this election cycle by 5%, a largish margin by standards since 1980, they'll almost certainly lose the Chamber. That's not because of California. It's mostly because of gerrymandering in states like Ohio and North Carolina and secondarily because of some demographic shifting.

Here's the crazy thing: It might blow your mind here, but Californians are US citizens too. If your false assertion was true, it wouldn't change the point I was making at all.
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canpakes wrote:Dog, is Warren claiming to be Cherokee, specifically?

Not anymore, but she identified herself as "Elizabeth Warren -- Cherokee" in a 1984 cookbook called (I kid you not) Pow Wow Chow. Most of the recipes she contributed turned out to be plagiarized.

This DNA test (and doubling down on her ancestry claims) was a misstep. She isn't Native American in any meaningful way. She should have just acknowledged that it was a sincere mistake to have ever self-identified as Native American and moved on.

As an aside, DNA analyses really can be junk. Ancestry just re-did my 2016 results and I went from being 22% Scandinavian to 0% Scandinavian.
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MsJack wrote:She should have just acknowledged that it was a sincere mistake to have ever self-identified as Native American and moved on.

If it's a one of those stories her family tells between generations, why would she consider it a mistake?

The real question is why does anyone give a damn about this one way or another? If this influences anyone's vote, they suck at making voting decisions and were a lost cause anyway.
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Some Schmo wrote:The real question is why does anyone give a damn about this one way or another? If this influences anyone's vote, they suck at making voting decisions and were a lost cause anyway.

Well, this is the same crowd that backs a phony with a story of how he’s a ‘self-made billionaire’... after being given a 400-million dollar head start by his parents through shady tax-dodging schemes. That crowd has to deflect from that somehow.

And then the same phony welches on a bet to give money to a charity. Lol.
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canpakes wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:The real question is why does anyone give a damn about this one way or another? If this influences anyone's vote, they suck at making voting decisions and were a lost cause anyway.

Well, this is the same crowd that backs a phony with a story of how he’s a ‘self-made billionaire’... after being given a 400-million dollar head start by his parents through shady tax-dodging schemes. That crowd has to deflect from that somehow.

And then the same phony welches on a bet to give money to a charity. Lol.

funny how your value for children of parents who commit tax-fraud transforms between Beto and The Donald.
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MsJack wrote:
canpakes wrote:Dog, is Warren claiming to be Cherokee, specifically?

Not anymore, but she identified herself as "Elizabeth Warren -- Cherokee" in a 1984 cookbook called (I kid you not) Pow Wow Chow. Most of the recipes she contributed turned out to be plagiarized.


Ya, we covered this and you left out a couple of important things. It was an "Indian" cook book her cousin asked her to contribute to because it was a firm family belief that the Warren's had Indian ancestry. So what is so unusual about signing a name with "Cherokee" for a book called a "collection of recipes from families of the Five Civilized Tribes. (Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek, and Seminole)"?

This was also back in 1984, years before she went to Harvard, proving this was obviously a genuine belief within the family and had nothing to do with lying to get a position. I have a couple of recipes for food items you can probably find in other books as well. Some recipes are just common, and don't require "plagiarism."

MsJack wrote:This DNA test (and doubling down on her ancestry claims) was a misstep. She isn't Native American in any meaningful way. She should have just acknowledged that it was a sincere mistake to have ever self-identified as Native American and moved on.


There was nothing to apologize for. She never said she was Native American or Native American in any "meaningful way" which is all subjective anyway. DNA test confirm she has Native American ancestry, which is all she ever claimed.

As an aside, DNA analyses really can be junk. Ancestry just re-did my 2016 results and I went from being 22% Scandinavian to 0% Scandinavian.


Ahh, so now we're going to throw shade on the science. Well hell, maybe it was wrong and she has 25% Native American DNA. I mean, hey, why must it be wrong in the other direction?

My ancestry profile changed too with an "update" but it basically shifted some of the percentages slightly between Germany and Ireland. I suspect Native American DNA isn't so easily confused with Europe and Scandinavian DNA profiles, but the man who did this test said it was with a high level of confidence she has native american ancestry. And potentially 6 generations back, which means she has 16 times more Native American DNA than the average white American.
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canpakes wrote:Well, this is the same crowd that backs a phony with a story of how he’s a ‘self-made billionaire’... after being given a 400-million dollar head start by his parents through shady tax-dodging schemes. That crowd has to deflect from that somehow.

They believed he was self-made before it was made public he wasn't, which was stupid then. That they continue to believe it is to be expected from people who have shown a disdain for thinking critically.

canpakes wrote:And then the same phony welches on a bet to give money to a charity. Lol.

Can you imagine how much political currency he could earn by actually donating some money? For a few hundred thousand, he could buy millions in reputation.

But of course, he's too cheap and stupid to even consider it.
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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:Well, this is the same crowd that backs a phony with a story of how he’s a ‘self-made billionaire’... after being given a 400-million dollar head start by his parents through shady tax-dodging schemes. That crowd has to deflect from that somehow.

And then the same phony welches on a bet to give money to a charity. Lol.

funny how your value for children of parents who commit tax-fraud transforms between Beto and The Donald.

Hey, there, reading-comprehension-disabled dude. Good morning. Please enlighten us on Beto’s bet with Warren to donate cash to a charity if she took a DNA test.

Thanks!
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I don't understand the tendency to disparage Trump's business acumen or personal success. It just seems petty, and hollow. And ironic, given how he has beaten you. One thing to lose to an obnoxious and annoying evil genius, another thing to lose to a border line retard. And this is where you insult the intelligence of his voters. Yep, that's the ticket.
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Water Dog wrote:I don't understand the tendency to disparage Trump's business acumen or personal success. It just seems petty, and hollow. And ironic, given how he has beaten you. One thing to lose to an obnoxious and annoying evil genius, another thing to lose to a border line retard. And this is where you insult the intelligence of his voters. Yep, that's the ticket.


It is interesting to me how often and how passionately Left-leaning types like to throw around 'morons', 'dupes', 'idiots', and whatnot when describing their opposition. And yet, how often have they stopped to think they were roundly beaten like Anastasia Steele by Christian Grey by a mentally deranged loudmouth and his cabal of idiots? Huh. Maybe on some level they need to be dominated...

Anyway, that ought to say something to the Leftists on this board about who they are and how they go about losing.

I mean, they won't entertain any possibility that they're actually the dummies and will forge ahead with their losing gameplan, but what are you gonna do? You can't lead a horse to water and expect a bee to pollinate its cake.

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