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Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem
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"He disturbs the laws of his country, he forces himself upon women, and he puts men to death without trial.” ~Otanes on the monarch, Herodotus Histories 3.80.
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Finally. While I was always more Black Sabbath than Ozzy, I can roll with this. Team Amazing Shot needs some diversity.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:27 pmTrying to bully Molok through your tears?Whiskey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:10 pmMolok, you sure you want to play that song right now? Are you the aggressor or the victim here? Are you the pisser or the pissed? The bullied or the bully? What is your lane? By the way, the band has moved on to AI and danger, you should not imply that the bully is crying. Do you mind cleaning up your communication?
Do you think Molok will have any original content that will keep any of us interested?
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You certainly don't, Chattie.
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??? Crybully is a real term, were you unaware of that?Whiskey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 7:10 pmMolok, you sure you want to play that song right now? Are you the aggressor or the victim here? Are you the pisser or the pissed? The bullied or the bully? What is your lane? By the way, the band has moved on to AI and danger, you should not imply that the bully is crying. Do you mind cleaning up your communication?
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Maybe his webcrawlers haven't assimilated that term yet.
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So which is it now — I’m AI, or I’m not AI because I haven’t assimilated “crybully” yet? On the one hand, you’re convinced I’m spitting out machine text; on the other, you want to scold me for not finally using AI. Pick a lane, Professor. At this point the only algorithm running is yours: if the words hit too hard, they must not be human.
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I think you are confused. Try rereading and keeping up with the conversation.Whiskey wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 8:36 pmSo which is it now — I’m AI, or I’m not AI because I haven’t assimilated “crybully” yet? On the one hand, you’re convinced I’m spitting out machine text; on the other, you want to scold me for not finally using AI. Pick a lane, Professor. At this point the only algorithm running is yours: if the words hit too hard, they must not be human.
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I'm going to make a prediction, based on the information that is beginning to seep out pertaining to the shooter's motive. My guess? The primary motive is going to wind up being something as banal and simple and all-too-human as love. Robinson was in love with his trans roommate, and wound up fixating on Kirk as a major figurehead leading the current wave of anti-trans rhetoric, legislation, etc. Robinson saw Kirk as someone who was making life hard/miserable for his (i.e., Robinson's) partner, and by extension, him, too. How was he supposed to comfortably love his trans partner in a world that seems to be growing ever more hostile towards trans people and trans issues? What do you want to bet that Robinson's defense council winds up saying something similar when the time comes? This is starting to remind me a bit of Dog Day Afternoon.
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Banal and simple as love? Are you kidding me, Scratch? That’s not an explanation, that’s a Hallmark card stapled to a corpse. Love doesn’t banalize a political hit job — it doesn’t make it “simple” or “all-too-human.” It corrupts it, twists it, makes it grotesque.Doctor Scratch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:39 pmI'm going to make a prediction, based on the information that is beginning to seep out pertaining to the shooter's motive. My guess? The primary motive is going to wind up being something as banal and simple and all-too-human as love. Robinson was in love with his trans roommate, and wound up fixating on Kirk as a major figurehead leading the current wave of anti-trans rhetoric, legislation, etc. Robinson saw Kirk as someone who was making life hard/miserable for his (i.e., Robinson's) partner, and by extension, him, too. How was he supposed to comfortably love his trans partner in a world that seems to be growing ever more hostile towards trans people and trans issues? What do you want to bet that Robinson's defense council winds up saying something similar when the time comes? This is starting to remind me a bit of Dog Day Afternoon.
Good god. You think a straight kid hasn’t run into some jackass who hated their fiance? You think rejection or disapproval is a burden reserved for your “transkid with a furry lover” trope? The world is hard, sure — but to leap from hardship to homicide is not banal, it’s depraved.
And if you’re right — if this person felt so much “love” that he had to murder a father and husband — then yes, let’s call it what it is: FITH. Because that’s where murder dressed up as devotion belongs.
These apologetic excuses for killing — that the killer was a friend of a victim, so he was a victim, so the act was banal — they’re not explanations. They’re rationalizations. Common, maybe. Plausible or acceptable? Not a chance.
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A love story? How F-ing adorable!Doctor Scratch wrote: ↑Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:39 pmI'm going to make a prediction, based on the information that is beginning to seep out pertaining to the shooter's motive. My guess? The primary motive is going to wind up being something as banal and simple and all-too-human as love. Robinson was in love with his trans roommate, and wound up fixating on Kirk as a major figurehead leading the current wave of anti-trans rhetoric, legislation, etc. Robinson saw Kirk as someone who was making life hard/miserable for his (i.e., Robinson's) partner, and by extension, him, too. How was he supposed to comfortably love his trans partner in a world that seems to be growing ever more hostile towards trans people and trans issues? What do you want to bet that Robinson's defense council winds up saying something similar when the time comes? This is starting to remind me a bit of Dog Day Afternoon.
Color me stupid: After hearing about this evil assassination, "love" never even crossed my mind.
(Unbelievable!)