"Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter"

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I'll have to poke around, but I recall seeing something about one of his accusers providing proof of her allegations after being called a liar.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

I'll have to poke around, but I recall seeing something about one of his accusers providing proof of her allegations after being called a liar.

- Doc

One of the people who accused him of assault produced a yearbook of hers from highschool that he signed. He claimed it was a forgery. Just recently another person who said she had a relationship with him when she was a teenager produced a graduation card note he wrote for her in the exact same hand writing and a scrapbook containing multiple references to her relationship with him in 1981.

That's on top of his 9 accusers having over 2 dozen corroborating witnesses stating they were told about the relationship years ago when they didn't know each other. It's on top of even more witnesses than that stating that Moore had a reputation for creeping up on teenagers when he was a DA, especially at the local mall. And that's without getting into his evasive and self-contradictory denials.

He could not more obviously be guilty. He clearly knew them.

I've been a little worried that alt-right types were going to seize upon the credibility of the "me too" movement to manufacture false allegations against liberals - you know, to own the libs - but this level of evidence goes way beyond what a conspiracy of jackasses could manage even if they wanted to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv5fqunQ_4I

[_moksha]

Contradicting previous claims, Roy Moore is now saying he knows none of his accusers...

Moore is taking a page right out of Trump's pathological playbook. Soon Moore will be the junior Senator from Alabama.

[Guest]

[_MeDotOrg]

There's a lot of room between HE'S A CHILD MOLESTER and THE WOMEN ARE LIARS.

They could be misremembering. They could be confusing Moore with someone else. They could be suggestible. They could be delusional. They could have repeated the story to themselves so many times that they believe it. They could be really, really disgusted with Jerry Seinfeld.

Nine women more or less simultaneously remembering the same thing incorrectly?

After a while, I think about Hakim's razor, which says that all things being equal the simplest explanation is the right one. So yes, all these women could be delusional. They also must have been delusional for a long time, because many of them to told friends and loved ones about the incidents over the years.

So the odds are that all of the women are lying, and the man whose career would be over is telling the truth. And we believe him because...?

So are we to believe that a bunch of women (some Republican and Trump voters) all more or less simultaneously agreed to share the same delusion, as compared to Roy Moore, who is telling the truth.

Roy Moore married his wife when she was 23. He has said in an on camera interview that he was attracted to his wife when he first saw her at a dance recital, but didn't get to ask her out until 8 years later. He married his wife when she was 23, which means he was checking her out a dance recital when she was 15.

[_subgenius]

... produced a yearbook of hers from highschool that he signed. He claimed it was a forgery.
...produced a graduation card note he wrote...

Were either of these proven to be authentic by comparison against a source that wasn't from an accuser? Should be easy considering his profession....surely you followed up, right?

[Guest]

[_subgenius]

After a while, I think about Hakim's razor, which says that all things being equal the simplest explanation is the right one.

That's a common misinterpretation of the razor, you should research it further. It's equally as simple for them all to be lying...jus sayin...that's the same kinda simple and the same misapplication of the razor.

He married his wife when she was 23, which means he was checking her out a dance recital when she was 15.

You've been beating this drum for a while, to mostly deaf ears. Because most people in the 70s didn't care if a 20/30 year old noticed a high school girl, especially in Alabama. It's rather like being disgusted at George Washington over slavery.
Besides, Moore is being accused of hitting on females ranging from ages of 15 to 28, which is peculiar...most pedophiles don't have such a broad range of taste...but hey, I'm not a voter in Alabama and like you and everyone else here, it's not our call. I don't let Alabama tell me how to vote either.

[_EAllusion]

... produced a yearbook of hers from highschool that he signed. He claimed it was a forgery.
...produced a graduation card note he wrote...

Were either of these proven to be authentic by comparison against a source that wasn't from an accuser? Should be easy considering his profession....surely you followed up, right?

Multiple examples of his handwriting appeared in stories regarding the year book after the defense became it was a forgery, which is ludicrously implausible given all the contextual evidence of his general behavior. It's definitely his handwriting style.

Water Dog, via Ann Coulter, is claiming that the signature was in two inks, was not signed like Roy Moore does, and that said he was a DA when he was not. The two inks claim is without evidence, the signature is plainly in his style - though the Moore camp brazenly tried to claim otherwise - and he was assistant DA at the time which isn't even a little inconsistent with him signing "DA." This is repeating his implausible defense claims rather than actually adding any additional evidence or argument.

This defense wasn't even all that smart sociopathic lying as he probably would've been wiser to claim that he knew her, but nothing sexual occurred. After all, there's a boatload of other examples of Moore pursuing high school aged girls. The yearbook comment isn't an apology for sexually assaulting her.

[Guest]