Let's just start making every family, by law, only able to have one child. If a couple illegally have a second child, we just kill it. Oh oh, I know! We could make a law that says it's legal to kill the second child within the first month and if the child is older than a month it will be given to a family that's childless. Just think how much better off we'll be in 30 or 40 years! Let's do it for mother earth, anyone with me!! Man, I woke today feeling more progressive, I'm feeling good!! This is great!!
Nope. Let's not, because your proposal is bat-poop crazy. That's definitely a way of dealing with global heating that Ceeboo would, I think, classify as 'insane'.
On the other hand, it does seem a good idea to do all we can to reduce energy dependence on fossil fuels, and given that many people now take that view and act on it, I suggest now is a good time to reconsider any investments you may have in that sector, since in the long run they are likely to fall in value. Doesn't that sound reasonable to you?
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
I see that the Atlanticmike chatbot is operating in 'output only' mode today.
Still, at least he has proposed a possible way of dealing with global heating, even if his way is obviously insane.
Which is more than some people have done.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
Bloomberg News wrote:Currently, the average American farm worker is exposed to 21 unsafe working days due to extreme heat each year. If global temperatures rise by 2 degrees Celsius — the goal established by the Paris climate agreement — those workers will face 39 days of extreme heat. According to a new study from the Union of Concerned Scientists, the number of days that feel like they exceed 100 degrees Fahrenheit could more than double by midcentury. For many workers, it will be even worse. Imperial County, California, a major agricultural region, could see heat-indexed extremes topping 115 degrees, a level that U.S regulators label “high risk” for illness.
The human costs of this warming became all too evident this past summer. The heat wave that struck the Pacific Northwest in June led to some 600 excess deaths, according to one analysis. Less certain, but no less real, were the financial losses imposed on workers and businesses. By one estimate, a collective $55 billion in outdoor workers’ earnings could be at risk annually in the U.S. by midcentury due to extreme heat. If farm workers are idle, the food supply chain will need to adjust, most likely with higher prices.
In recent years, farmers and other contributors to the food supply chain have become far more vocal about the need to adapt their practices to a changing climate, or face lower yields and profits. So far, policy makers haven’t done much in response.
Bloomberg News wrote:Currently, the average American farm worker is exposed to 21 unsafe working days due to extreme heat each year. If global temperatures rise by 2 degrees Celsius — the goal established by the Paris climate agreement — those workers will face 39 days of extreme heat. According to a new study from the Union of Concerned Scientists, the number of days that feel like they exceed 100 degrees Fahrenheit could more than double by midcentury. For many workers, it will be even worse. Imperial County, California, a major agricultural region, could see heat-indexed extremes topping 115 degrees, a level that U.S regulators label “high risk” for illness.
The human costs of this warming became all too evident this past summer. The heat wave that struck the Pacific Northwest in June led to some 600 excess deaths, according to one analysis. Less certain, but no less real, were the financial losses imposed on workers and businesses. By one estimate, a collective $55 billion in outdoor workers’ earnings could be at risk annually in the U.S. by midcentury due to extreme heat. If farm workers are idle, the food supply chain will need to adjust, most likely with higher prices.
In recent years, farmers and other contributors to the food supply chain have become far more vocal about the need to adapt their practices to a changing climate, or face lower yields and profits. So far, policy makers haven’t done much in response.
I'd bet that even Atlanticmike and his team don't work on roofs if the temperature gets too high for comfort and safety.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
I'd bet that even Atlanticmike and his team don't work on roofs if the temperature gets too high for comfort and safety.
A crew of Mexicans roofed my house while it was 100 out. Jeans, long sleeve shirts and big straw hats. Not me!
Yup, That's what poor people end up being made to do. In the Arab Gulf states there are laws that name the temperature at which all building site work (usually done by immigrant labour from South Asia) must cease.
Funnily enough, the official thermometer is always just half a degree below that, however hot it gets. As the heating continues, more and more non-por people's lives wll become unlivable outside an air-conditioned space. But you can't have an air-conditioned farm, at least not an outdoors one.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
A crew of Mexicans roofed my house while it was 100 out. Jeans, long sleeve shirts and big straw hats. Not me!
Yup, That's what poor people end up being made to do. In the Arab Gulf states there are laws that name the temperature at which all building site work (usually done by immigrant labour from South Asia) must cease.
Funnily enough, the official thermometer is always just half a degree below that, however hot it gets. As the heating continues, more and more non-por people's lives wll become unlivable outside an air-conditioned space. But you can't have an air-conditioned farm, at least not an outdoors one.
What a ding dong. Lots of Mexican roofing crews, they're not "made" to do roofing. They're perfectly happy to roof in the heat of the summer. Most rather work when it in the 90s, not when it's 30 or 40 degrees outside. Make more money in the summer. And of course they wear long sleeves and a hat. Easier to regulate body temperature that way. Stop being so white!
Manetho wrote: ↑Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:28 pm
From https://www.bloombergquint.com/gadfly/s ... rm-workers
Bloomberg News wrote:
Currently, the average American farm worker is exposed to 21 unsafe working days due to extreme heat each year. If global temperatures rise by 2 degrees Celsius — the goal established by the Paris climate agreement — those workers will face 39 days of extreme heat. According to a new study from the Union of Concerned Scientists, the number of days that feel like they exceed 100 degrees Fahrenheit could more than double by midcentury. For many workers, it will be even worse. Imperial County, California, a major agricultural region, could see heat-indexed extremes topping c degrees, a level that U.S regulators label “high risk” for illness.
The human costs of this warming became all too evident this past summer. The heat wave that struck the Pacific Northwest in June led to some 600 excess deaths, according to one analysis. Less certain, but no less real, were the financial losses imposed on workers and businesses. By one estimate, a collective $55 billion in outdoor workers’ earnings could be at risk annually in the U.S. by midcentury due to extreme heat. If farm workers are idle, the food supply chain will need to adjust, most likely with higher prices.
In recent years, farmers and other contributors to the food supply chain have become far more vocal about the need to adapt their practices to a changing climate, or face lower yields and profits. So far, policy makers haven’t done much in response.
Yup, That's what poor people end up being made to do. In the Arab Gulf states there are laws that name the temperature at which all building site work (usually done by immigrant labour from South Asia) must cease.
Funnily enough, the official thermometer is always just half a degree below that, however hot it gets. As the heating continues, more and more non-por people's lives wll become unlivable outside an air-conditioned space. But you can't have an air-conditioned farm, at least not an outdoors one.
What a ding dong. Lots of Mexican roofing crews, they're not "made" to do roofing. They're perfectly happy to roof in the heat of the summer. Most rather work when it in the 90s, not when it's 30 or 40 degrees outside. Make more money in the summer. And of course they wear long sleeves and a hat. Easier to regulate body temperature that way. Stop being so white!
We're not talking 90 Fahrenheit here, but more like 115. And the migrant labourers in Dubai are brown as brown.
No ethnicity can resist the kind of temperatures we are beginning to see more and more, and which will go higher still.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
Argh. So frustrating. I was having solar installed today and the crew had to stop due to rain, which I’m glad they did because safety issues. Just venting …
Argh. So frustrating. I was having solar installed today and the crew had to stop due to rain, which I’m glad they did because safety issues. Just venting …
- Doc
Congratulations! How many kilowatt-hours will you get out of your system during a nice sunny day when it is up and running? A supermarket that I visit in one fairly sunny country installed shades over part of their car park with solar panels on top, and hey presto! Cooler cars and free power! The whole thing has a big panel on the side showing the current power output in kilowatts at any instant, and the accumulate kWh energy for the preceding 7 days. It's a lot, and it's free bar the installation cost.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
