"Woman says Roy Moore initiated sexual encounter"

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subgenius wrote:
MeDotOrg wrote:After a while, I think about Hakim's razor, which says that all things being equal the simplest explanation is the right one.

That's a common misinterpretation of the razor, you should research it further. It's equally as simple for them all to be lying...jus sayin...that's the same kinda simple and the same misapplication of the razor.

Are you say it is equally possible that 9 women are lying, compared to the word of one man? If you theoretically acknowledge the possibility Roy Moore was capable of this behavior, how many women would have to come forward before you would believe them? If forty women came forward, would you say that was too many, an obviously showed a conspiracy? What would be the right number of women giving the right kind of testimony be?

MeDotOrg wrote:He married his wife when she was 23, which means he was checking her out a dance recital when she was 15.

subgenius wrote:You've been beating this drum for a while, to mostly deaf ears. Because most people in the 70s didn't care if a 20/30 year old noticed a high school girl, especially in Alabama. It's rather like being disgusted at George Washington over slavery.

I certainly have to give you credit for finding a commonality between dating teenage girls and slavery being the social norms of their times.

Roy Moore is not guilty, and all of these women are not telling the truth.

But at the same time, 'noticing' teenage when you were a 30 year old men "noticing" and dating 16 year old girls in the 70's was no big deal. So if dating teenage girls was no big deal and part of the social norms, where are the happy girls that went out with Judge Moore? Why isn't there a cheerleader coming forward to talk about her wonderful prom night with the handsome young Mr. Moore, who was a perfect gentleman? Quite frankly, when I think of a 30 year old man dating a teenage girl I think of a guy who is too insecure or immature to have a relationship with a more age appropriate woman.

I don't know if I was 'most people', but I came into my 30's at the end of the 70's, and I can tell you no one I knew thought dating high school girls was normal behavior. I would have thought anyone doing it was creepy.

subgenius wrote:Besides, Moore is being accused of hitting on females ranging from ages of 15 to 28, which is peculiar...most pedophiles don't have such a broad range of taste...but hey, I'm not a voter in Alabama and like you and everyone else here, it's not our call. I don't let Alabama tell me how to vote either.

That clarifies things. I guess we'll ask for State I.D. before anyone is allowed to comment on an issue or a candidate.
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Water Dog wrote:Digging into Beverly Nelson and the issue of the yearbook, I have to side with Moore. It does appear like a forgery. She won't allow it to be examined by experts. And multiple people say she's untrustworthy in very strong terms, most notably her stepson. Coulter gets it right. I also observe that these details are ignored and not addressed or reported on by the mainstream news outlets. Very fishy.


Well, Coulter got it right about Hannity last summer. Link
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subgenius wrote:Besides, Moore is being accused of hitting on females ranging from ages of 15 to 28, which is peculiar...most pedophiles don't have such a broad range of taste...but hey, I'm not a voter in Alabama and like you and everyone else here, it's not our call. I don't let Alabama tell me how to vote either.


However, we have Hannity and Bannon telling voters in Arizona here that we need to vote for Kelli Ward for Senate.
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Water Dog wrote:
Brackite wrote:Well, Coulter got it right about Hannity last summer. Link

Point?


Besides Coulter being right about Hannity, I don't really know what else she has been really about the last seveal months. However, I don't really follow her that much, and I have noticed that she hasn't really been on Hannity since they had that little fall out of theirs last summer.
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MeDotOrg wrote:
subgenius wrote:That's a common misinterpretation of the razor, you should research it further. It's equally as simple for them all to be lying...jus sayin...that's the same kinda simple and the same misapplication of the razor.

Are you say it is equally possible that 9 women are lying, compared to the word of one man? If you theoretically acknowledge the possibility Roy Moore was capable of this behavior, how many women would have to come forward before you would believe them? If forty women came forward, would you say that was too many, an obviously showed a conspiracy? What would be the right number of women giving the right kind of testimony be?

The quantity of woman making an allegation is irrelevant. Is not 1 woman supposed to be enough?
40 women are not more convincing than 4 women, simply based upon quantity, correct?....I can find 40 people to say the Book of Mormon is true, does that make it true for you? for everyone?
Nevertheless, let us argue for believing the women just because a bunch of them say so....is that the measure for condemnation? for imprisonment? for denial of reasoning?...do we just stop right there and filter everything through that core belief and then disregard anything that might cause doubt?

MeDotOrg wrote:He married his wife when she was 23, which means he was checking her out a dance recital when she was 15.

subgenius wrote:You've been beating this drum for a while, to mostly deaf ears. Because most people in the 70s didn't care if a 20/30 year old noticed a high school girl, especially in Alabama. It's rather like being disgusted at George Washington over slavery.

I certainly have to give you credit for finding a commonality between dating teenage girls and slavery being the social norms of their times. [/quote]
well, perhaps a bit hyperbolic but I do not think you can ignore context on this matter. And not as a means to justify, but rather as a point for condemning someone today for what was condoned yesterday.

MeDotOrg wrote:Roy Moore is not guilty, and all of these women are not telling the truth.

That is one way of looking at it.

MeDotOrg wrote:But at the same time, 'noticing' teenage when you were a 30 year old men "noticing" and dating 16 year old girls in the 70's was no big deal. So if dating teenage girls was no big deal and part of the social norms, where are the happy girls that went out with Judge Moore?

I never read where he claimed to have dated teenage girl(s) or that he even wanted to date teenage girl(s). If he did make such a claim then surely your request here would be reasonable.


MeDotOrg wrote: Why isn't there a cheerleader coming forward to talk about her wonderful prom night with the handsome young Mr. Moore, who was a perfect gentleman? Quite frankly, when I think of a 30 year old man dating a teenage girl I think of a guy who is too insecure or immature to have a relationship with a more age appropriate woman.

You are certainly free to think whatever you like on the matter of age gap dating. Maybe Hugh Hefner, Woody Allen, and Anna Nicole Smith also think what they like on the matter.
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http://www.yourtango.com/201182251/why- ... older-guys

MeDotOrg wrote:I don't know if I was 'most people', but I came into my 30's at the end of the 70's, and I can tell you no one I knew thought dating high school girls was normal behavior. I would have thought anyone doing it was creepy.

Ok, not-normal and creepy are not necessarily exclusions for some voters.....nor am i sure that they are impediments to doing US Senate work.

MeDotOrg wrote:
subgenius wrote:Besides, Moore is being accused of hitting on females ranging from ages of 15 to 28, which is peculiar...most pedophiles don't have such a broad range of taste...but hey, I'm not a voter in Alabama and like you and everyone else here, it's not our call. I don't let Alabama tell me how to vote either.

That clarifies things. I guess we'll ask for State I.D. before anyone is allowed to comment on an issue or a candidate.

i suppose the line between "comment" and "condemnation" is a bit thinner than I realized. So, then to what end was your "commentary"?
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