Ukraine Gate...Impeachment thread 2

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Markk wrote:I will try hard to "earn" your worthiness...LOL, you sound like my old Bishop.

I highly doubt your old bishop equated credibility with worthiness.

Markk wrote:Love ya

Stop lying to everyone. When you love people, you pay attention to and try to understand what they actually say.
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Schmo,

I actually do like you. I bet if we sat down and drank a beer together and watched a game...we would get along just find, that is if you can set my unworthiness and lack of credibility aside for a moment.

LOL...You certainly did not know my Bishop, and the worthiness vs masturbation sessions he inflected on the young men "in his care."

What's funny and a true story, I saw him at a funeral about six months ago and he is in is mid 80's. He was sharp, and totally a different person...time has a way of mellowing folks I guess. I heard his kids had issues later in life, that has a way of bringing one down to reality.

I also asked him how it is hanging (just making that part up:) ).

We had a good chat. We even laughed about the time me and a few buddies got busted for lighting fire crackers in the hallways at MIA, and he chased us around the parking lot. And the time my cousin kicked the sacrament wonder-bread loaf up in the chapel light soffit, attempting a long field goal. Which was a major controversy in that the bread was deemed unworthy by the DQP after a retrieval with a ladder...and it would be sin according to "sister Moser" to break the sabbath by going to the store to buy a new loaf of bread...I don't recall what decision was made (true story).

But anyway's

Take care
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Honor,

I want to add...

Look at about 53:05

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... cutor.html

This is Joe confirming that Yuriy Lutsenko was a good prosecutor...even though he is the one that caved and let Zlochevsky/Burisma off the hook.
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Let me fix that for you:

Markk wrote:Classic Schmo...I totally get few click links and actually try to be objective, I really do. Folks generally ask questions, then when they are answered dodged over and over they just parrot and troll the question over and over.


That’s what happens when you continually dodge the simplest of questions, such as, “Why didn’t Trump ask the DoJ to investigate all of this..?”

Given Trump’s inaction, I’m not sure why Markk thinks we need to do that now. ; )
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Markk wrote:Schmo,

I actually do like you. I bet if we sat down and drank a beer together and watched a game...we would get along just find, that is if you can set my unworthiness and lack of credibility aside for a moment.

Perhaps. I'll say the same thing to you as I said to ajax when he said something similar: Yes, we might get along, but if you said to me in real life the same things you say to me here, you'd get the same reactions. People, especially my wife, tell me all the time I have no mental filter. I say what I'm thinking.

Of course, I say things with a smile. Everything is much easier to take if delivered with a smile. If you imagine most of my posts written with a smile on my face (even when exasperated), you're on the right track.

I just refuse to include emoticons. Why give the farm away? I'd rather the point of my posts rest on the text itself.
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Markk wrote:
LOL...because you refuse to open and read my links, I had to go back and type key facts out. Read my post

Shokin opened investigations to elicit bribes. Opening investigations is not a sign he was combating corruption. If you did more than chase partisan sources seeking to implicate Joe Biden you'd already know that.
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Markk wrote:Honor,

I want to add...

Look at about 53:05

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... cutor.html

This is Joe confirming that Yuriy Lutsenko was a good prosecutor...even though he is the one that caved and let Zlochevsky/Burisma off the hook.

His being wrong about that doesn't implicate him as you seem to think it does. Again, you are pointing to shadows and claiming they should carry the same weight as matters of substance.
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honorentheos wrote:
Markk wrote:Honor,

I want to add...

Look at about 53:05

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... cutor.html

This is Joe confirming that Yuriy Lutsenko was a good prosecutor...even though he is the one that caved and let Zlochevsky/Burisma off the hook.

His being wrong about that doesn't implicate him as you seem to think it does. Again, you are pointing to shadows and claiming they should carry the same weight as matters of substance.


Not only that, but Biden says, “... someone who was solid ... at the time”. This concedes that things didn’t turn out as planned. It certainly doesn’t indicate anything untoward on Biden’s part.
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honorentheos wrote:Shokin opened investigations to elicit bribes. Opening investigations is not a sign he was combating corruption. If you did more than chase partisan sources seeking to implicate Joe Biden you'd already know that.


HuH? He was behind the seizing of property and moving through the Ukrainian Judicial system...are you even reading what I write, and following the links?...Even if you refuse to look at the links. He was suing the prosecutor that signed off on the release of the 23 million. Zlochevsky had fled the country and did not comeback until Lutsenko, with the help of Hunter and the team he helped Burisma retain got him off.

These are facts, and can be confirmed with little effort.

Shokin had over 1300 anti corruption procedures alone during his short year within his administration. His administration has over 46,000 criminal investigation in his tenure...again a link you apparently ducked.

After his first his record was assessed, and his production against corruption was thre times more productive that the two previous GP's...again a link you did not review.

CFR and back up your assertion.
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Markk wrote:
honorentheos wrote:Shokin opened investigations to elicit bribes. Opening investigations is not a sign he was combating corruption. If you did more than chase partisan sources seeking to implicate Joe Biden you'd already know that.


HuH? He was behind the seizing of property and moving through the Ukrainian Judicial system...are you even reading what I write, and following the links?...Even if you refuse to look at the links. He was suing the prosecutor that signed off on the release of the 23 million. Zlochevsky had fled the country and did not comeback until Lutsenko, with the help of Hunter and the team he helped Burisma retain got him off.

These are facts, and can be confirmed with little effort.

Shokin had over 1300 anti corruption procedures alone during his short year within his administration. His administration has over 46,000 criminal investigation in his tenure...again a link you apparently ducked.

After his first his record was assessed, and his production against corruption was thre times more productive that the two previous GP's...again a link you did not review.

CFR and back up your assertion.

Not to break your stride backwards, but what does Hunter Biden have to do with any of this? Or Joe? Did Joe and Hunter hire the guy?
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