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Re: Countdown to Marijuana legalization, Jan 12!

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Liz
I have to agree with Jersey Girl here. I had not heard of marijuana actually "killing cancer cells". What I have read is that there is something unique in marijuana that eliminates nausea for cancer patients going through chemotherapy. Since vomiting and dehydration is a huge issue with cancer patients, especially since their immune system is already damaged, I see this as a big plus, from a cancer treatment perspective.

I would be interested in reading research indicating the effects of marijuana on actual cancer cells. Therefore, I echo the CFR on this. Can you point me in the direction of some information, Ezias?


The only cancer cells that I'm remotely aware of that are impacted by marijuana are brain cancer cells, Liz.

Even so, as I implied in my post to Eric, this doesn't make a case for the legalization of marijuana.
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Let me cut to the chase instead of taking the long road home...

Ezias
It will allow people to use medicine which is proven to kill all kinds of cancer cells.


I want to know why you think the above reason has any bearing on the legalization of marijuana. Are you forwarding the idea that cancer patients should self medicate? Are you suggesting legalized pot as a method of prevention of "all kinds of" cancer?

Please explain your reasoning here, Ezias.
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Here are my thoughts and I welcome anyone to pick them apart.

I think that the physical and mental health risks involved in smoking marijuana (admittedly lessened health risks when using a bong) are sufficient for me to object to the legalization of marijuana.

What has anyone got to offer here in the way of support for this?

The black market, Mexican mafia defense doesn't hold water with me. So long as growers are able to undercut the public market or sell to underage clients, the black market will remain intact.

I don't see how law enforcement is going to be able to knock out the black market or reduce the agressive tactics of the Mexican mafia.

How does anyone see this as plausible?

I get the feeling that folks like Ezias have been sold a bill of goods. I'm willing to hear out anyone who can make a good defense for legalization.

I'm not seeing it.
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When I'm thinking about marijuana, tobacco and alcohol, I think alcohol is FAR more destructive.
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Re: Countdown to Marijuana legalization, Jan 12!

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Even if it were pot, Eric, how does this make a case for the legalization of marijuana


To be honest, this isn't a topic I enjoy discussing very much. Maybe later, and if this thread gets interesting, I'll take more time to state my opinions. But to answer your question, Jersey Girl, I think the 'case' for legalization should have nothing to do with the potential health benefits.
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Eric wrote:
Even if it were pot, Eric, how does this make a case for the legalization of marijuana


To be honest, this isn't a topic I enjoy discussing very much. Maybe later, and if this thread gets interesting, I'll take more time to state my opinions. But to answer your question, Jersey Girl, I think the 'case' for legalization should have nothing to do with the potential health benefits.


To be honest with you, this isn't a topic I've even thought about for years. ;-)

I don't think health treatment benefits are relevant to legalization.
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Re: Countdown to Marijuana legalization, Jan 12!

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Eric wrote:And if all else fails: Try this link.


This is a total derail, but I'm going to say this anyway. Eric will appreciate my nerdiness. LOL

Eric, I think this app is so COOL! I love it! :)
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Re: Countdown to Marijuana legalization, Jan 12!

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Jersey Girl wrote:When I'm thinking about marijuana, tobacco and alcohol, I think alcohol is FAR more destructive.


I agree, which was kind of my point in this argument.

I view both alcohol and tobacco as vices. They are legal, addictive vices.

I will admit, I have tried pot on a few occasions. I have also had the occasional drink.

With alcohol, my judgment was severely impaired. I would not trust myself to drive, work, etc. Also, after drinking too much, the hangover effects are horrific. I have a headache. I'm sick to my stomach, etc.

With pot (I have only smoked it using a bong), I felt giddy, but I never felt "out of control". My judgment did not feel impaired. I actually felt more "aware" of my surroundings. There was also not really the same type of "buzz" that you associate with alcohol. It was more of just a relaxation. Now, maybe this is how pot affected me because I am such a high-strung person. LOL

There was also no hangover feeling AT ALL. Nada. Zip. No upset stomach. No headache. Dry throat was really the only down side effect I experienced.

So, I guess, based on my own personal experience with both drinking and smoking pot, since they are both vices....I just think it is stupid that pot is illegal and alcohol is legal. From my personal experience, alcohol appeared to have more side effects overall.

Of course, I'm only going on how these drugs affected me, personally. Every individual is different. It just seems to me that pot is a more mild vice than alcohol, and I find it ironic that alcohol is legal, while pot isn't.
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