Conservatives Ingesting Horse Dewormers to prevent COVID

[Lem]

At this moment, it’s easy to claim that taking Ivermectin is what saved the person who ingested it, given that the low mortality rate from infection likely won’t kill them anyway. We can more safely gamble with our ignorance. Next time, things might be different.

This is similar to the phenomenon of the proliferation so called "snake bite cures" in folk medicine due to the fact snakes do not always inject venom when they bite. Some experts say that in the case of rattlesnakes, for example, as much as half the time, rattlesnakes don't inject venom when biting merely as a fear or threat response toward any scary creature too big to be suitable as rattlesnake prey. Why waste precious venom on something it knows it can't eat, if it can avoid it? Anyone "miraculously" surviving one of these harmless, dry bites might easily jump to the conclusion that whatever they did, ate or drank immediately afterwards must be a snake bite cure, whether it is or not.

That’s fascinating about snakebites. It explains a few “miracle” stories passed down in my Southwestern heritage!

Seriously though, that’s what I find most disconcerting about some of the arguments given. People should know that small bits of anecdotal evidence are rarely helpful in explaining medical issues, but it seems human nature to attach a huge weights to those events and only small or even negligible weight to properly done research.

I add the ‘properly done’ because you always have to do your due diligence on any source you use, but still, anecdotal evidence is almost never sufficient. And I say ‘almost never’ only because the statistician in me insists on it, when all cases are not known. The language really means ‘so close to “never” as to be indistinguishable from never, even though they are technically not the same.’

As soon as you qualify, however, you invariably get this from some:

[Alf'Omega]

AM pretending he's friends with those who were disobedient in the preexisting. Priceless.

[Moksha]

Why are you using it in conjunction with antifungals for treating ringworm?

Ringworm sounds a lot like roundworm and that could be the cause of this apparent confusion.

It is like when you go out and seek the advice of pine trees because you wish to conifer.

[Res Ipsa]

I think doctors/scientists need to continually search for cures for this. Repurposed drugs are a good place to start. This Israeli doctor believes in ivermectin:

https://m.jpost.com/health-science/isra ... day-675612

Other doctors have found success using corticosteroids:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34011029/

Here is what the NIH says about various treatments and ongoing trials:

https://covid19.nih.gov/treatments-and- ... treatments

Of course. I’m not saying potential cures shouldn’t be investigated. But one doctor’s belief isn’t evidence. And people who should know better are pushing Ivermectin over vaccines. That’s the harm.

[canpakes]

Why are you using it in conjunction with antifungals for treating ringworm?

Ringworm sounds a lot like roundworm and that could be the cause of this apparent confusion.

It is like when you go out and seek the advice of pine trees because you wish to conifer.

:: Jenilee Conifer enters the chat ::

[Atlanticmike]

AM pretending he's friends with those who were disobedient in the preexisting. Priceless.

Typical white Progressive racist! Keep trying, there is hope.

[Dr Exiled]

I think doctors/scientists need to continually search for cures for this. Repurposed drugs are a good place to start. This Israeli doctor believes in ivermectin:

https://m.jpost.com/health-science/isra ... day-675612

Other doctors have found success using corticosteroids:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34011029/

Here is what the NIH says about various treatments and ongoing trials:

https://covid19.nih.gov/treatments-and- ... treatments

Of course. I’m not saying potential cures shouldn’t be investigated. But one doctor’s belief isn’t evidence. And people who should know better are pushing Ivermectin over vaccines. That’s the harm.

Yeah. I agree that it shouldn't be either or. Whatever works. Anyway, the Israeli scientist (I should have clarified) did a double blind study on ivermectin and found positive results. But, the results concerning ivermectin are all over the board and definitely more research is needed.

[Res Ipsa]

Dr. Exiled, yeah, sounds like we’re on the same page.

[Chap]

Why are you using it in conjunction with antifungals for treating ringworm?

She combines three together, can't remember what the third is. Uses it on animals also. Not really that big of a deal, cheap way to try to cure before calling a vet for animals.

The level of confidence you inspire in the rationality of this treatment is falling with each successive post you make.

[Gunnar]

That’s fascinating about snakebites. It explains a few “miracle” stories passed down in my Southwestern heritage!

Seriously though, that’s what I find most disconcerting about some of the arguments given. People should know that small bits of anecdotal evidence are rarely helpful in explaining medical issues, but it seems human nature to attach a huge weights to those events and only small or even negligible weight to properly done research.

I add the ‘properly done’ because you always have to do your due diligence on any source you use, but still, anecdotal evidence is almost never sufficient. And I say ‘almost never’ only because the statistician in me insists on it, when all cases are not known. The language really means ‘so close to “never” as to be indistinguishable from never, even though they are technically not the same.

As I am sure you realize, I agree entirely.

by the way, I'm glad you appreciated that "snake bite cure" tidbit I provided. It's just one of the many fascinating bits of information that my ancient brain has managed to acquire and retain during my many decades of existence.