5.6 Million Jobs Available in US

[_Jersey Girl]

2. How would you defend their high rates of income (i.e. it's rather cliché how expensive it is to call a plumber)

Why would anyone defend it? Do you defend how much money you make? We do our own mechanical work here, but listen, if you aren't willing to learn to do it or aren't willing to do it yourself, you pay the going rate for it.

It's that simple.

[_canpakes]

Stop being a wanker please....

1. I never made any "definitive" statement that there "were no electrician jobs" ever anywhere. I never claimed I have "studied it" and made the declaration that this is the "truth" of the matter.
I simply relayed some related information from experience with some Electricians I've known over the years.
That's it.... end of story. So stop lying about what I was actually saying.

2. There being "jobs" advertised doesn't mean there is an actual job available and that there aren't a LOT of people trying to get the job.
Further, when it concerns Union jobs and job availability compared with non-union, it's a very different thing.
For example, the Utah person was a Union man, thus there are restrictions there. It's quite possible many of the jobs are non-union, or are union but you must have certain qualifications, physical ability, etc. Who knows.

There are many factors here that YOUR "tab searching" are clearly ignorant of.
More so, I was making no definitive statement on the issue, only stating "I'm not sure" due to some evidence I knew of.
So, in case it's clear, I have no actual position on the issue, because I haven't studied it. I simply relayed some evidence.
I never said it was complete, or the actual whole truth.

So again, stop lying about people.

Oh, look. Another 21 ads for jobs in this field.

http://jobs.monster.com/v-construction- ... y,-ut.aspx

That took another 3 seconds when I went back to look.

[Guest]

Again, I said they couldn't get jobs..... I never said there were no jobs existing.

As usual, the liberal brain cannot understand the inflection with language, and also understand per language inflection that I did not actually take a position on the issue, but gave anecdotes, not being sure, which is WHY I said "I'm not sure" and then stated my anecdotes.

Also, the liberal brain cannot understand the difference between "availability" and demand.
He doesn't understand that there may be jobs out there, but that there might also be a lot more people wanting the jobs than the jobs can actually fill.

"Ads" do not tell "demand", they simply indicate "supply" what's currently available.
Even the most FULL of job careers still put out ads for jobs, because of turnover, etc.

[_canpakes]

Again, I said they couldn't get jobs..... I never said there were no jobs existing.

As usual, the liberal brain cannot understand the inflection with language, and also understand per language inflection that I did not actually take a position on the issue, but gave anecdotes, not being sure, which is WHY I said "I'm not sure" and then stated my anecdotes.

Also, the liberal brain cannot understand the difference between "availability" and demand.
He doesn't understand that there may be jobs out there, but that there might also be a lot more people wanting the jobs than the jobs can actually fill.

"Ads" do not tell "demand", they simply indicate what's currently available.
Even the most FULL of job careers still put out ads for jobs, because of turnover, etc.

Oh, look. Even the State is hiring electricians:

https://jobs.utah.gov/jsp/wi/utalmis/re ... ectricians

Another 3 seconds.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

... cannot understand the inflection with language, [u]and also understand per language inflection ...

That's because there's no inflection when you're posting to Mormon Discussions.

Why don't you have a job, even a menial one?

- Doc

[_ldsfaqs]

Oh, look. Even the State is hiring electricians:

https://jobs.utah.gov/jsp/wi/utalmis/re ... ectricians

Another 3 seconds.

Also, the liberal brain cannot understand the difference between "availability" and demand.
He doesn't understand that there may be jobs out there, but that there might also be a lot more people wanting the jobs than the jobs can actually fill.

"Ads" do not indicate "demand", they simply indicate "supply", what's currently available.
Even the most FULL of job careers still put out ads for jobs, because of turnover, etc.

If you still don't get it..... If there are more Electricians than there are jobs, then that means the market is overburdened for that career.

[Guest]

... cannot understand the inflection with language, [u]and also understand per language inflection ...

That's because there's no inflection when you're posting to Mormon Discussions.

Why don't you have a job, even a menial one?

- Doc

There is when I use words that indicate it, i.e. as I already said "I don't know about that" and then gave some anecdotes that maybe the Electrician job market is saturated.

I'm not going to repeat myself again for the 1,000th time why that is.
And in case you don't know, Just Me and Jersey Girl created a thread just to try and help me with those issues, to send me stuff that will help me if your so needy interested in my personal life.

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Again, for those who don't understand basic economics, there existing Job Ad's doesn't mean there are not enough Electricians.
Electrical work always has jobs coming up, that they then need to find Electricians for.
Existing job ads doesn't tell you how many people are applying for those jobs, which is the entire point.
For all you know there could be 200 people applying for each job. In fact, my roommate of two years ago, the Electrician I was speaking about, indicated that very thing, that the jobs he applied for had dozens of applicants that it was impossible for him to compete.

So, next time canpakes, reply to what I actually state instead of your diversionary tactic of posting job ads.

[_canpakes]

If you still don't get it..... If there are more Electricians than there are jobs, then that means the market is overburdened for that career.

Oh, look. Eleven more position openings from Career Builder.

http://m.careerbuilder.com/jobs-journey ... ke-city,ut

I don't see any evidence of the market being 'overburdened for that career' yet.

[_ldsfaqs]

If you still don't get it..... If there are more Electricians than there are jobs, then that means the market is overburdened for that career.

Oh, look. Eleven more position openings from Career Builder.

http://m.careerbuilder.com/jobs-journey ... ke-city,ut

I don't see any evidence of the market being 'overburdened for that career' yet.

Again, for those who don't understand basic economics, there existing Job Ad's doesn't mean there are not enough Electricians.
Electrical work always has jobs coming up, that they then need to find Electricians for, it's not the same as some careers that might have limited job ads because people are comfortable working the job.

Existing job ads doesn't tell you how many people are applying for those jobs, which is the entire point.
For all you know there could be 200 people applying for each job. In fact, my roommate of two years ago, the Electrician I was speaking about, indicated that very thing, that the jobs he applied for had dozens of applicants that it was impossible for him to compete. They had so many applicants, some jobs he told me would have over a hundred applicants, and there were many like him out of work, and that those picked would be the youngest, the cheapest, etc.

Again canpakes..... you confuse SUPPLY with being the same thing as DEMAND.

[_canpakes]

Here's your problem. You simply decided that you would pull this statement out of your arse:

But where I've lived the last 10+ years middle aged intelligent, clean, capable men in Hawaii, Las Vegas, and here in Utah simply can't get work or enough work as an Electrician.

You have posted absolutely nothing that supports your assertion.