Texas and Arizona

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_Themis
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DoubtingThomas wrote:Can someone please explain what are Republicans going to do without Texas (38 electoral votes)?

In 2000 Republican won Texas by 21.32%
2004 by 22.9%
2008 by 11.8%
2012 by 15.78%
and 2016 by 8.99%.

Donald Trump won Arizona (11 votes) with a margin of 3.57%.
38 + 11 = 49 electoral votes. What are Republicans going to do?


We would need to see better data to see if there is a real trend toward democrats. I'm not American, but even I know that Bush had been Governor of Texas when he ran for President in 2000 and 2004. Should we not expect him to do better then other republican candidates who were not from Texas? And Trump was the worst candidate the Republicans could have picked.
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_The CCC
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In Texas it is the Lieutenant Governor that has the real power.
SEE http://kut.org/post/why-lieutenant-gove ... ants-power
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The CCC wrote:Not sure how all that would work out. California has the best economy of the states and most every country. Porto Rico has a basket case of an economy. Even worse than that of Mississippi. Exchanging Porto Rico for California would just add another moocher state.


Assuming all of Puerto Rico isn't in Florida by then...

Exodus: Company Helps Conservative Californians Emigrate to Texas

A new company is helping conservative Californians emigrate to Texas, where they can enjoy lower taxes, better economic opportunities, and friendlier politics.
Fox News reports that former Republican congressional candidate Paul Chabot has founded a company, Conservative Move, that helps would-be emigrants sell their homes in the Golden State and find new ones in the Lone Star State, and also helps them find “a good-paying job” in their new home.
Chabot’s prospective clients include those who, like him, have concluded that California has no future for them:
While California during the 1980s and early 1990s was anything but serene – there was the crack cocaine epidemic, widespread tensions between the African-American community and the police and a rash of homelessness, just to name a few issues – Chabot argues that unlike that time, it is almost impossible to maintain the type of middle-class existence he had during his childhood. He added that things like rising taxes, legalized marijuana, gun restrictions, sanctuary cities and declining public schools have all added to the disappearance of the state he once knew.
“California is no longer the representation of the American Dream,” he said. “California has fallen morally on so many levels.”
In addition, the two states have completely different views of government’s role — with Californians preferring high taxes and heavy regulations, and Texas preferring the opposite. California conservatives are attracted to the Texan philosophy — and Chabot hopes to help them find more hospitable surroundings.
As Breitbart News noted earlier this year, Texas continues to add new residents from other states, and California is the number one source.
Texas governors have also been poaching California companies for years — most notably Toyota, which has moved from Torrance in Los Angeles to Plano, Texas. Some 9,000 companies reportedly left California between 2008 and 2015 — many of them heading to Texas.

Many of California’s conservatives want to go with them.

http://www.breitbart.com/california/201 ... ate-texas/
“There were mothers who took this [Rodney King LA riots] as an opportunity to take some milk, to take some bread, to take some shoes ... They are not crooks.”

This liberal would be about socializing … uh, umm. … Would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your companies.
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Without the money from California taxpayers Texas couldn't balance its own budget.
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The CCC wrote:Without the money from California taxpayers Texas couldn't balance its own budget.

wow you are the colossus of stupid...but at least you did not link-n-run, eh gramps.

But tell us more however could Texas survive when its tax burden is ranked 45th compared to California's 4th...which, considering your ignorance on the matter, means that California taxes a 42 percent greater share of income than does Texas...which means that without California, Texas still has a generous tax base from which to draw revenue...and given the Federal money that California rakes in due to the countless National Parks, welfare programs, and Military properties/contracts...i imagine the budget will just work its way out just fine.
But hey, i am sure that Texas's greater job growth, greater individual GDP, and friendly policy towards Mexican immigration will also pitch in to fill that California void....and heaven forbid that the more bipartisan politics within Texas contribute more than the single-sided government heavy burden of California.

move along old man, you've had a good run and you are better off just watching from your porch.....taking a nap....etc


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Stupid Troll California taxpayers subsidizes Texas.
SEE https://www.theatlantic.com/business/ar ... Relief Society/361668/
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The CCC wrote:Stupid Troll California taxpayers subsidizes Texas.
SEE https://www.theatlantic.com/business/ar ... Relief Society/361668/

wasn't disputing that ya moron...the premise was how Texas could survive when California is gone....when those subsidies are gone...get it? huh?...is this going in your good ear?

geez, you can't even grasp the simple link-and-run concept how am i expecting you to grasp a simple economic concept?
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The Texas budget as it is now wouldn't survive without California taxpayers bailing it out. Talk about not knowing simple economic concepts. by the way I don't have a problem with supporting those in need. But resent those that bite the hand that feeds them. Like your Moocher Tennessee.
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Re: Texas and Arizona

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Themis wrote:
We would need to see better data to see if there is a real trend toward democrats. I'm not American, but even I know that Bush had been Governor of Texas when he ran for President in 2000 and 2004. Should we not expect him to do better then other republican candidates who were not from Texas? And Trump was the worst candidate the Republicans could have picked.


Yes, Hispanic population is growing fast in Texas. Republicans seriously need to rethink their anti-abortion proposals.
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The CCC wrote:The Texas budget as it is now wouldn't survive without California taxpayers bailing it out. Talk about not knowing simple economic concepts. by the way I don't have a problem with supporting those in need. But resent those that bite the hand that feeds them. Like your Moocher Tennessee.

"as it is now" :lol:
Might as well move the goal posts, eh?


You're in waaaay over your gray little head. Best you save face now, knowwhatImean?
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