America was great during slavery, Moore tells black man

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Re: America was great during slavery, Moore tells black man

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subgenius wrote:
MeDotOrg wrote:To me, waxing nostalgic about the Antebellum south is like ...(snip)....

This is my point about nostalgia as noted above. And further how you have no insight into southern culture or its nuances at all levels. And this only inasmuch as nostalgia is not just a political tool here, but everywhere.

By your narrow measure any evocation of the past must be dismissed because it is impossible to not find some group of disenfranchised people from that time.
History is winners and loses my friend. Sure there was slavery in some places, and povery in others, and disease, and illiteracy, and wild animals, and Apollo crashes, and deceit....and those who forgo nostalgia because the glass will never be full.
The Andrews Sisters had some great advice, that apparently should be dismissed because...well, because Negroes couldn't vote when the song was popular and thus....


Moore doesn't think any time since the civil war was great. That's the last time the US was great. Meanwhile, flash-forward to the present, and Moore thinks the US is the focus of modern evil in the world due to gay marriage. So this isn't generic nostalgia for an amorphous past. It's Moore identifying the antebellum South as peak US culture in comparison to anything that came since. Thinking about slavery is not a blemish on this sufficient to take the bloom off that rose, but gay marriage is sufficient reason to condemn the United States in the harshest terms possible.

When Obama was scandalized because he attended Church with a pastor who said "God damn America" because of its ongoing problems with racism, that was a conflagration of outrage in mainstream conservatism. When the actual Republican candidate also criticizes America as a font of evil, in this case because of same sex marriage, and that is contrasted with is praise for America when millions of people were in slavery, why that's totes fine. What's the problem?
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beastie wrote:Sub -

If you lived in Alabama, would you vote for Roy Moore?

Well, since I usually vote based on actual job performance history and projected performance it would be difficult for me to answer your question. This is because, since I don't live there, I have not done much by way of learning about Moore's legislative and/or governing skills.

I understand that Democrats like the cult of personality when they pull that voting lever, that a candidates clothes, backstory, and superfluous personality traits are what matters most at the Capital...because, well that is how they want to be "represented".
So, perhaps I could answer with a "probably", because it is a more likely situation that the Democrat running is a worse candidate for doing that type of work...but, to be fair, I haven't bothered to learn much about him either.

Which means, like you, I would just be voting in Alabama on party affiliation, because that's much easier than thinking about actual issues....selecting a candidate based upon where he may have wanted to put his pens 40+ years ago is just being a smart voter, right?
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Brackite wrote:
moksha wrote:Roy Moore will become the next Senator from Alabama on Tuesday.


Yep. He will. Alabama is a deep red state. Trump got a higher percentage of the vote from Alabama than Hillary did from California.

And Trump did it without voter fraud.
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subgenius wrote:Well, since I usually vote based on actual job performance history and projected performance it would be difficult for me to answer your question. This is because, since I don't live there, I have not done much by way of learning about Moore's legislative and/or governing skills.
I understand that Democrats like the cult of personality when they pull that voting lever, that a candidates clothes, backstory, and superfluous personality traits are what matters most at the Capital...because, well that is how they want to be "represented".
So, perhaps I could answer with a "probably", because it is a more likely situation that the Democrat running is a worse candidate for doing that type of work...but, to be fair, I haven't bothered to learn much about him either.

Which means, like you, I would just be voting in Alabama on party affiliation, because that's much easier than thinking about actual issues....selecting a candidate based upon where he may have wanted to put his pens 40+ years ago is just being a smart voter, right?


Short answer: yes, sub would vote for Moore.
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beastie wrote:
subgenius wrote:Well, since I usually vote based on actual job performance history and projected performance it would be difficult for me to answer your question. This is because, since I don't live there, I have not done much by way of learning about Moore's legislative and/or governing skills.
I understand that Democrats like the cult of personality when they pull that voting lever, that a candidates clothes, backstory, and superfluous personality traits are what matters most at the Capital...because, well that is how they want to be "represented".
So, perhaps I could answer with a "probably", because it is a more likely situation that the Democrat running is a worse candidate for doing that type of work...but, to be fair, I haven't bothered to learn much about him either.

Which means, like you, I would just be voting in Alabama on party affiliation, because that's much easier than thinking about actual issues....selecting a candidate based upon where he may have wanted to put his pens 40+ years ago is just being a smart voter, right?


Short answer: yes, sub would vote for Moore.

Because party.
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beastie wrote:
subgenius wrote:Well, since I usually vote based on actual job performance history and projected performance it would be difficult for me to answer your question. This is because, since I don't live there, I have not done much by way of learning about Moore's legislative and/or governing skills.
I understand that Democrats like the cult of personality when they pull that voting lever, that a candidates clothes, backstory, and superfluous personality traits are what matters most at the Capital...because, well that is how they want to be "represented".
So, perhaps I could answer with a "probably", because it is a more likely situation that the Democrat running is a worse candidate for doing that type of work...but, to be fair, I haven't bothered to learn much about him either.

Which means, like you, I would just be voting in Alabama on party affiliation, because that's much easier than thinking about actual issues....selecting a candidate based upon where he may have wanted to put his pens 40+ years ago is just being a smart voter, right?


Short answer: yes, sub would vote for Moore.

funny how this what your little brain came up with...no wonder Democrats are losing elections.
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canpakes wrote:Because party.

See, this is why people view you as electorally shallow. If i were in Alabama I would feel beholden to actual learn about the candidates with regard to a more mature and relevant measure...in other words, not because party, but because merit. Unfortunately Democrats want to measure merit by superfluous units while republicans tend to stick with the game at hand...a game Democrats are losing.
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subgenius wrote:And Trump did it without voter fraud.

At least if you ignore all that Russian stuff.

by the way, you forgot about that antebellum culture built on slavery also making some fine peach pie (yum!) and mint juleps.

If i were in Alabama I would feel beholden to actual learn about the candidates with regard to a more mature and relevant measure...in other words, not because party, but because merit.

Mature and relevant information like the caliber of that little gun he waves around while talking and how he will not put up with the godless liberal Jews in Washington.
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subgenius wrote:. . . selecting a candidate based upon where he may have wanted to put his pens 40+ years ago is just being a smart voter, right?

??? Can you think of a single voter in the history of this country who has selected a candidate based on where he puts his pens?
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beastie wrote:Short answer: yes, sub would vote for Moore.


Absolutely. He would vote for a man who has stated, on a radio show no less, he'd get rid of Constitutional amendments 11-27.

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