Renowned Economist: Trump is a "Delusional" threat

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Re: Renowned Economist: Trump is a "Delusional" threat

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MeDotOrg wrote:No press conferences, but lots of rallies.


Yeah exactly!
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honorentheos wrote:The conclusions are damning. “The United States already leads the developed world in income and wealth inequality,

idiotic to assume that tax cuts effective 2018 and minimal policy changes that have been effective for maybe a year are responsible for these "damning conclusions".
Were you asleep for the previous 8 years?
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Re: Renowned Economist: Trump is a "Delusional" threat

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honorentheos wrote:You're focusing on the wrong thing, subbie.

no, you are. clearly my post was a criticism of the incessant myopia; constant cherry picking; and perpetual economic/political adolescence that is posted by that poster.
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Re: Renowned Economist: Trump is a "Delusional" threat

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subgenius wrote:
honorentheos wrote:The conclusions are damning. “The United States already leads the developed world in income and wealth inequality,

idiotic to assume that tax cuts effective 2018 and minimal policy changes that have been effective for maybe a year are responsible for these "damning conclusions".
Were you asleep for the previous 8 years?

Interesting choice in selective reading. Here's the actual quote -

“The United States already leads the developed world in income and wealth inequality, and it is now moving full steam ahead to make itself even more unequal,” the report concludes. “High child and youth poverty rates perpetuate the intergenerational transmission of poverty very effectively, and ensure that the American dream is rapidly becoming the American illusion.”

The U.N. explicitly lays blame with the Trump administration for policies that actively increase poverty and inequality in the country. “The $1.5 trillion in tax cuts in December 2017 overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy and worsened inequality. The consequences of neglecting poverty and promoting inequality are clear,” it concludes. “The policies pursued over the past year seem deliberately designed to remove basic protections from the poorest, punish those who are not in employment and make even basic health care into a privilege to be earned rather than a right of citizenship.”


If you read the article in full, it's clear that it is covering both current conditions that have been a growing problem for at least a generation but also the actions of the Trump administration and what those actions point to in regards to making those conditions worse which they've been getting over the last year. It isn't as simple as blaming Reagan, Clinton, either Bush, Obama or Trump. But the current President is the only one who is in a position to effect change one way or the other. And he's making his choice in this regards clear.

As for the odds that the report will force the administration to change course, Alston was not hopeful. During the visit, “The U.S. was visibly debating what to do with $1.5 trillion [in tax cuts]. And its proposals in relation to those living in poverty was essentially to cut back on existing benefits in order to help fund the tax reforms. That made for a pretty dramatic contrast for the approach that I have found elsewhere.”
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subgenius wrote:
honorentheos wrote:You're focusing on the wrong thing, subbie.

no, you are. clearly my post was a criticism of the incessant myopia; constant cherry picking; and perpetual economic/political adolescence that is posted by that poster.

Incessant myopia, constant cherry picking and political adolescences...are you familiar with Carl Jung's shadow theory?
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honorentheos wrote:Incessant myopia, constant cherry picking and political adolescences...are you familiar with Carl Jung's shadow theory?

yeah, and such a thing would be irrelevant to a Freudian.
But you echo the fallacy presented in the OP...an appeal to authority.
The OP is a consistent example of how that poster always starts threads with such intellectually inept promises. They always post some bias media opinion quote presented as fact. The post offers no question nor comment that intends dis mission but rather is intended to flame or troll. All the while with a thinly veiled hope of presenting the poster as informed, in spite of the constant, and factual, refutations by multiple psoters... refutations that always reveal the feebleness of that premise.
But alas, this poster is often enabled by the echo chamber incarnate that, ironically, does consider all this a "simple competition".

But what care do you have for such facts and realities? You are trying to prove something altogether different, aren't you?
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Re: Renowned Economist: Trump is a "Delusional" threat

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subgenius wrote:The OP is a consistent example of how that poster always starts threads with such intellectually inept promises. They always post some bias media opinion quote presented as fact. The post offers no question nor comment that intends dis mission but rather is intended to flame or troll. All the while with a thinly veiled hope of presenting the poster as informed, in spite of the constant, and factual, refutations by multiple psoters... refutations that always reveal the feebleness of that premise.
But alas, this poster is often enabled by the echo chamber incarnate that, ironically, does consider all this a "simple competition".

But what care do you have for such facts and realities? You are trying to prove something altogether different, aren't you?

Ah, yes. This post just busted the irony meter.
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Re: Renowned Economist: Trump is a "Delusional" threat

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DoubtingThomas wrote:But we Americans elected the moron. We Americans are the real threat to the world.
It is painfully obvious that most Americans are very stupid.

Not most Americans, just enough Americans for our flawed electoral college system of presidential election to sometimes result in the less popular candidate to unjustly win the election. Don't forget that 3 million more people voted against Trump than for him. But still, even given that flaw, that there was a sizable enough minority stupid enough to vote for him to enable his election is extremely disturbing and depressing.
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Re: Renowned Economist: Trump is a "Delusional" threat

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One of the problems with Trump is that he doesn't believe in "win, win" scenarios. To him, it is not enough that he win; the other party must lose and be destroyed and humiliated.
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Re: Renowned Economist: Trump is a "Delusional" threat

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ajax18 wrote: Rush pointed out that the left is losing its patience with voters. I think Democracy's days are numbered. Even planting a spy couldn't swing the election the way they wanted. I doubt many more elections will be left up to voters in the future.


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Ryan said he concurs with House Oversight Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy's assessment that the FBI acted properly and within the law when it used an informant to meet with Trump campaign operatives in 2016.
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