Tucker Carlson and Avenatti go at it

[_EAllusion]

So if you describe school dress codes that make girls not expose shoulders an attempt at slut shaming, you are calling 13 year old with exposed shoulders sluts? Rock solid logic there Doc. Also, you might want to look up what the phrase slut shaming refers to.

I apologize for interpretating your statements in the only plausible way that could form a coherent, relevant argument. In retrospect, this was presumptuous given the author.

[_Kevin Graham]

You said that Stormy was being slut-shamed. You imply she's a slut else how would she be shamed?

Look. If you're not going to answer the question we really can't move this dialogue forward. I don't want to play the "EAllusion Can Read Your Mind Better Than You Can Therefore He Creates an Argument Out of Thin Air" game.

- Doc

Your question is predicated on a misunderstanding apparently. By saying she is being slut shamed on FOX I'm not saying that I think she is a slut, but rather the person doing the shaming.

And the intention of this thread was to plausibly go in a number of different directions other than "Let's talk about what is Kevin's wife goes in to porn."

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

So if you describe school dress codes that make girls not expose shoulders an attempt at slut shaming, you are calling 13 year old with exposed shoulders sluts? Rock solid logic there Doc. Also, you might want to look up what the phrase slut shaming refers to.

I apologize for interpretating your statements in the only plausible way that could form a coherent, relevant argument. In retrospect, this was presumptuous given the author.

I love this game EA plays. He just ups and creates whatever runs through his retarded mind and voila. It's fact. I suppose if those 13-year-olds were damned a bunch of their classmates your really, really, really bad analogy might stick, but since we're talking about A damned PORN STAR can we just stay focused, please?

Jesus Christ you're insufferable most of the time.

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

You said that Stormy was being slut-shamed. You imply she's a slut else how would she be shamed?

Look. If you're not going to answer the question we really can't move this dialogue forward. I don't want to play the "EAllusion Can Read Your Mind Better Than You Can Therefore He Creates an Argument Out of Thin Air" game.

- Doc

Your question is predicated on a misunderstanding apparently. By saying she is being slut shamed on FOX I'm not saying that I think she is a slut, but rather the person doing the shaming.

Did anyone on FOX use the term 'slut', or was that just you?

Anyway. I see you're not going to answer the question because this is the game you guys play. You never discuss anything in good faith. *shrugs* It is what it is.

- Doc

[_Kevin Graham]

Did anyone on FOX use the term 'slut', or was that just you?

Anyway. I see you're not going to answer the question because this is the game you guys play. You never discuss anything in good faith. *shrugs* It is what it is.

- Doc

This is like saying no one can be fat-shaming someone unless they explicitly use the word "fat." But I wouldn't be surprised if the exact word was used on a number of FOX shows.

"Slut-shaming is the practice of criticizing people, especially women and girls, who are perceived to violate expectations of behavior and appearance regarding issues related to sexuality." - this is precisely what FOX does.

I'd answer the question if you can explain a point behind it. So far it just seems EA was correct. How would I feel if my wife went into porn? At this point, after all that's been said, this is just a stupid question.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I literally told you why I asked the question. If you're not going to participate then we'll just chalk it up to your timidity.

Also, I probably wouldn't have used the term "slut" to describe Stormy Daniels, and I find it odd that you and EA are so comfortable with the word that you'd use it so cavalierly. But whatever. You guys do you.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

Saying something is an attempt at slut shaming is not calling the target of that slut shaming a slut. The term does not refer to shaming people who are sluts. It refers to condemning people for not behaving or dressing according to expected sexual norms (when doing so is victimless).

Your reasoning is based either on dishonesty or ignorance of what the phrase even means.

[_Water Dog]

Stormy Daniels, pornographic actress, stripper, prostitute, blackmailer, a.k.a. Stephanie Clifford in real life, was slut shamed?

[_moksha]

It's a thought experiment designed to extract a value judgement out of you so I can undermine your point. Please indulge me.

- Doc

If she were my wife, I would banish her to the Sea of Red Herrings - at least till the Antarctic winter was over.

After this thought experiment on value judgments is over, would you share with us your conclusions?

[_Kevin Graham]

Stormy Daniels, pornographic actress, stripper, prostitute, blackmailer, a.k.a. Stephanie Clifford in real life, was slut shamed?

She was never a prostitute. She didn't even accept payment for her sexual affair with Trump.

Blackmailer? Please elaborate because Trump is the one who tried to keep her quiet with money.