Jussie Smollett: great example of supply v demand

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:That's BS, Analytics and I'm fairly certain you know it. For example:

http://www.dailycal.org/2019/02/20/man- ... ey-campus/

Man tabling for conservative group allegedly assaulted on UC Berkeley campus


Like hundreds of other instances of harassment, hatred and violent attacks against Trump supporters, this story HASN'T been covered by....


I think you missed my point. My point was that this wasn't that big of a story until it turned out to be a sick twisted hoax. After all, before the gig was up did anybody bring up this story here and talk use it to generalize about Trump supporters? If he wouldn't have been a celebrity, how much coverage would have the original storied received? It only turned into a big story when one--it turned out to be so bizarre and two, it could be weaponized against Liberals. That is when the right-wing propaganda machine went into high gear, which is why Bach heard about it in the first place.

The weakness of the example you cite above proves the point. According to the article you linked, there was an argument at a table in Berkley that escalated to the point of a phone being slapped and a bloody nose. Yawn. And you use <I>this</I> boring story not being covered by the "mainstream media" as an indication of how left-wing they are? By that logic, Fox News, information Wars, Breitbart, and Daily Caller are all liberal Trump haters too, because (as far as I could figure out from Googling the news) they didn't cover it either.
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Analytics wrote:The weakness of the example you cite above proves the point. According to the article you linked, there was an argument at a table in Berkley that escalated to the point of a phone being slapped and a bloody nose. Yawn. And you use <I>this</I> boring story not being covered by the "mainstream media" as an indication of how left-wing they are? By that logic, Fox News, information Wars, Breitbart, and Daily Caller are all liberal Trump haters too, because (as far as I could figure out from Googling the news) they didn't cover it either.

It's not a weak example at all. Just recently here in SLC a guy slapped the phone out of a gay man's hand and it made front page news with threads dedicated to the incident on r/saltlakecity, posters calling for a hate crime, and even the slcpd using the media to find the individual.

Same crap. Different perspective.

Are you actually suggesting the major news networks and major social media platforms aren't biased on behalf of the Left?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Are you actually suggesting the major news networks and major social media platforms aren't biased on behalf of the Left?

- Doc

Is there any research done to quantify this question to some extent? One of the problems I see is when some like bach or ceeboo are so far to the right, even the center areas looks far left.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Analytics wrote:The weakness of the example you cite above proves the point. According to the article you linked, there was an argument at a table in Berkley that escalated to the point of a phone being slapped and a bloody nose. Yawn. And you use <I>this</I> boring story not being covered by the "mainstream media" as an indication of how left-wing they are? By that logic, Fox News, information Wars, Breitbart, and Daily Caller are all liberal Trump haters too, because (as far as I could figure out from Googling the news) they didn't cover it either.


It's not a weak example at all. Just recently here in SLC a guy slapped the phone out of a gay man's hand and it made front page news with threads dedicated to the incident on r/saltlakecity, posters calling for a hate crime, and even the slcpd using the media to find the individual.

Same crap. Different perspective.

Are you actually suggesting the major news networks and major social media platforms aren't biased on behalf of the Left?

- Doc

This makes me wonder what ‘major news networks’ and ‘mainstream media’ really mean any more.

I live where you do, and listen to the news both in to and from my work, and I seem to recall hearing about this once, perhaps. I can’t even recall where from.

In an era where so many folks simply do not listen or pay attention to what used to be described as the mainstream media - and in the midst of an era where the most watched cable news channel is still not included in that category - what use are these descriptors any more except to construct lines in the sand without relevance to how many Americans consume information, or for the partisan purpose of defending a particular viewpoint?
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Themis wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Are you actually suggesting the major news networks and major social media platforms aren't biased on behalf of the Left?

- Doc

Is there any research done to quantify this question to some extent?

Yeah - The research has concluded that one must have a pulse to have the ability to see this.

One of the problems I see is when some like bach or ceeboo are so far to the right, even the center areas looks far left.

HA! You're hilarious!
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Themis wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Are you actually suggesting the major news networks and major social media platforms aren't biased on behalf of the Left?

- Doc

Is there any research done to quantify this question to some extent? One of the problems I see is when some like bach or ceeboo are so far to the right, even the center areas looks far left.

Why is it always the Right's problem with perspective? Do you feel the same about KG, EA, or Chap? I think their notion of centrist falls squarely within social if not economic Marxism. They'll deny it, for sure, but that's what Leftists do. They deny what they are while simultaneously lying about it, too. It's their tried and true strategy.

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Canpakes,

It made every local major news outlets' tv broadcast, the front page of the Trib, and received widespread coverage on social media platforms. I'd be surprised if it gained the same traction had a Gay guy slapped the phone out of a Trump supporter's hand.

eta: For example today:

https://fox13now.com/2019/02/22/da-file ... lake-city/

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaltLakeCity/c ... ges_after/


[–]wordofgreen[+1]Verified Reporter[S] 17 points 3 hours ago
I wrote this at work today and am sharing it here because I know the original video got a lot of attention.


- Doc
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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Why is it always the Right's problem with perspective? Do you feel the same about KG, EA, or Chap? I think their notion of centrist falls squarely within social if not economic Marxism. They'll deny it, for sure, but that's what Leftists do. They deny what they are while simultaneously lying about it, too. It's their tried and true strategy.

- Doc


I don't recall them pushing for economic Marxism.
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Themis wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Why is it always the Right's problem with perspective? Do you feel the same about KG, EA, or Chap? I think their notion of centrist falls squarely within social if not economic Marxism. They'll deny it, for sure, but that's what Leftists do. They deny what they are while simultaneously lying about it, too. It's their tried and true strategy.

- Doc


I don't recall them pushing for economic Marxism.


http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 05#p898905

Lots of Marxists endorse UBI. Marxian economics isn't uniform in concept nor practice, but I feel comfortable calling a spade a spade on this one. They will, of course, deny it or attempt to parse the point out into irrelevancy, but they're clearly very hard Left economically.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
http://www.mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3 ... 05#p898905

Lots of Marxists endorse UBI. Marxian economics isn't uniform in concept nor practice, but I feel comfortable calling a spade a spade on this one. They will, of course, deny it or attempt to parse the point out into irrelevancy, but they're clearly very hard Left economically.

- Doc


It's not just Marxists, and eventually all labor will be done by machines.
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