Gunnar wrote:Perhaps because Honduras is one of the nations whose economy, society and politics has been severely impacted by U.S. government interference and meddling, and in consequence is a much less safe place to live than it used to be?
I notice when you start trying to get ajax into some of the details he bails. He probably is a little afraid the US has some responsibility for what is happening in these countries and will not admit to his hypocrisies.
Themis wrote:I notice when you start trying to get ajax into some of the details he bails. He probably is a little afraid the US has some responsibility for what is happening in these countries and will not admit to his hypocrisies.
I think it is sad that Ajax is so strongly racist and xenophobic. I can't help wondering what made him that way. I am sure that he would be a much happier person if he could set aside his prejudices and learn to accept and appreciate people of other cultures as well as his own. We know from some of his past postings that he knows Spanish, and is, at least, bilingual. It seems peculiar to me that someone could go to the effort of becoming fluent in another language without gaining some measure of appreciation and affection for the people and culture of those who natively speak that language.
My son and one of my daughters both served missions in Spanish speaking areas, and both came back not only fluent in Spanish, but with a love for the people among whom they served. Ajax is LDS, and I speculate (I could, of course, be totally wrong) that he might have learned his Spanish while on a mission to some Latin American or other Spanish speaking country. If so, what might have happened to him to make him so racist and xenophobic?
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I notice when you start trying to get ajax into some of the details he bails. He probably is a little afraid the US has some responsibility for what is happening in these countries and will not admit to his hypocrisies.
I guess I just don't agree that my people owe reparations to all these minorities around the world yet you owe my people nothing for what your ancestors did during the Viking age. You're the one who bailed on that argument.
My son and one of my daughters both served missions in Spanish speaking areas, and both came back not only fluent in Spanish, but with a love for the people among whom they served.
Seeing the extent of the poverty and the effects of overpopulation in Latin America helped me understand that we can't just have open borders combined with programs like medicaid and social security. I think you can still love people without giving away your country. The truth is that neither you nor Themis personally contribute much to Latin America either. Perhaps even delusional liberals realize deep down how futile throwing money at the problem really is.
Whatever immigration policy is adoped, the taxpaying citizens of a democratic republic country should have the right to set a limit to how many immigrants they take in. Right now the policy seems to be, "Oh yes we need to have a border, but if people are desperate enough to risk their lives entering illegally through the dessert, you ultimately have to let them all in and provide for them. You can't just put up a wall and turn them away." At some point a hard line needs to be drawn. Until then we really don't have a sovereign democratic republic. As long as Mexico thinks they have the right to dictate how many immigrants we should take, I think it's more than fair that they pay for the wall.
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And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
ajax18 wrote:Seeing the extent of the poverty and the effects of overpopulation in Latin America helped me understand that we can't just have open borders combined with programs like medicaid and social security.
You’ve phrased this as if this poverty and overpopulation is an inevitable product of these people regardless of where they would be located. In other words, no other local factors (environment, government, history, etc) plays a role.
I notice when you start trying to get ajax into some of the details he bails. He probably is a little afraid the US has some responsibility for what is happening in these countries and will not admit to his hypocrisies.
I guess I just don't agree that my people owe reparations to all these minorities around the world yet you owe my people nothing for what your ancestors did during the Viking age. You're the one who bailed on that argument.
You bailed because you never addressed the issue. You don't want to take responsibility for what your country has done in the recent past yet at the same time blame other countries, and think you should be able to force them to pay your country to build something.
ajax18 wrote:Seeing the extent of the poverty and the effects of overpopulation in Latin America helped me understand that we can't just have open borders combined with programs like medicaid and social security.
You’ve phrased this as if this poverty and overpopulation is an inevitable product of these people regardless of where they would be located. In other words, no other local factors (environment, government, history, etc) plays a role.
Ajax how do you determine they are overpopulated and how does that relate to economics?
Ajax how do you determine they are overpopulated and how does that relate to economics?
Their economy can't support their population growth. The poorest people in rhe world continue to choose to have the most children. Why is that? Can you not see how this exacerbates the problem?
The Indian way of life could not support latge populations of people. Hence we have hoads of destitue people rushing gates in desperation. I don't buy the idea that latin america is poor because of the US. If there were no US they would wirse off not better.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Ajax how do you determine they are overpopulated and how does that relate to economics?
Their economy can't support their population growth. The poorest people in rhe world continue to choose to have the most children. Why is that? Can you not see how this exacerbates the problem?
The Indian way of life could not support latge populations of people. Hence we have hoads of destitue people rushing gates in desperation. I don't buy the idea that latin america is poor because of the US. If there were no US they would wirse off not better.
And you believe this because you're an uneducated hick. You're stupid and a racist. So no wonder you believe stupid, racist things.
Ajax how do you determine they are overpopulated and how does that relate to economics?
Their economy can't support their population growth. The poorest people in rhe world continue to choose to have the most children. Why is that? Can you not see how this exacerbates the problem?
The Indian way of life could not support latge populations of people. Hence we have hoads of destitue people rushing gates in desperation. I don't buy the idea that latin america is poor because of the US. If there were no US they would wirse off not better.
I understand that is what you believe, but I was asking what evidence you have for those beliefs.