How the Budget will affect those poor red states

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Re: How the Budget will affect those poor red states

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry ... cd994b17f5

WASHINGTON ― In the world according to Donald Trump, West Virginia is “producing record setting numbers and doing really well” ― a complete reversal from when he took office, when “it was practically shut down and closed for business.”

In the actual world, West Virginia has increasing poverty, more deaths than births each year, a significantly smaller workforce than a decade ago and the lowest median household income in the country.

“We’re not this gangbusters economy that sometimes we’re portrayed as,” said Sean O’Leary, an analyst at the West Virginia Center on Budget & Policy, who said the main employment growth has been in construction jobs for new natural gas pipelines, which are temporary. “If you look outside that sector of the economy, there is almost no growth.”
A 2018 U.S. Census Bureau report found that West Virginia was one of a handful of states in the country where median household income actually decreased during Trump’s first year in office, falling $1,400 to $43,439 and dropping it below Mississippi to make it dead last among the 50 states. The state’s poverty rate increased to 19.1% in the same time period, a full 7 percentage points higher than the national average and the fourth worst in the country.

of 4And though the unemployment rate has continued to decrease under Trump, as it had under former President Barack Obama, that has happened in part because residents have continued to retire, moved out of state or simply given up looking, O’Leary said. The state’s labor force is 25,000 smaller today than it was a decade ago otherwise the unemployment rate would be 7% instead.4.7%, he said."
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aussieguy55 wrote:https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/trump-west-virginia_n_5d37781fe4b020cd994b17f5

WASHINGTON ― In the world according to Donald Trump, West Virginia is “producing record setting numbers and doing really well” ―...

which is a claim, albeit a tad hyperbolic, supported by actual facts amd stats - but you orefer to post a huffpost opinion piece that offers no data to support its hair fire.
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Re: How the Budget will affect those poor red states

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subgenius wrote:
aussieguy55 wrote:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-23/trump-administration-moves-to-end-food-stamps-for-3-million

Way to go. Redefine the poverty level to cut spending.

Enrollment down 25 million iver past year due to improving economy, and seeking to reduce State administration waste and abuse in the program receives a cynical conclusion from your OP.
Yep, well constructed argument ya got - thanks!

Wow, “down 25 million”. ; )

Maybe you should check in with ajax for some glasses.
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Aussieguy,

It’s bad form to spam a thread and not answer questions posed to you.

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What I think the evidence shows that there are states in the US where there are high poverty rates and incidentally they vote in the GOP. Why are they poor? No opportunities for work with decent wages? Why are the wealthiest blue states? I threw in the Bible passages to stick it to any evangelicals that they are not following the precepts of the book that Obama said "they cling to"
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Re: How the Budget will affect those poor red states

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So, in response to you posting something about food insecurity, whatever that means, I posted this:

What does that mean in practical terms? That they're malnourished, even though they're obese? Like. What's your point?


And your point was they're poor? Well, I'm just glad to know the blue ink in Bic pens don't gestate 12 months into a capex while vacationing in Thailand.

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https://hungerandhealth.feedingamerica. ... ealth-101/

Maybe they eat McDonalds because it is cheap and the electricity has been cut off because they cannot pay the bill?
"Oftentimes, households must use many coping strategies to meet their food needs. These coping strategies may include:

Receiving help from friends (53 percent)
Watering down food or drinks (40 percent),
Purchasing inexpensive, unhealthy food (79 percent)
Selling or pawning personal property (35 percent)
Growing food in a garden (23 percent)
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Does that perhaps explain your question about poverty and obesity.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog ... nd-how-not

Those folks would be stressed because of financial hardship.
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moved out of state or simply given up looking, O’Leary said.


And how do you give up looking for work in America?

SSI/DISABILITY

It never ceases to amaze me how the Democrats manage to play both sides of this coin. One claims there are no decent paying jobs available hence we need more welfare. The other claims that we need mass immigration because our aging population is insufficient to provide the labor force we need. So which is it, not enough workers or not enough jobs? I guess it's a question that is answered by politicians depending on which part of their constituency is asking.
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aussieguy55 wrote:Does that perhaps explain your question about poverty and obesity.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog ... nd-how-not

Those folks would be stressed because of financial hardship.


So, just to be clear, they're not actually food insecure?

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Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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