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Re: Climate REALITY... The Simple Truth... Raw U.S. Data!
Well, he seems to have admitted it in one of the links you provided, Doc. In any case, he does seem to have been rather devastatingly debunked. I'll say this for him: he does seem to agree that too much reliance on gasoline powered cars is a significant problem and source of air pollution.
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Again, it would be nice if certain people:
1. Stopped attacking "personalities".
2. Judged the content/materials yourself by actually studying it, instead of just quoting some attack made by someone else, as IF they are the "authority", or mistake that may have been made, as if that invalidates everything a person does.
3. Stopped Appealing to Authority (consensus in science has been wrong MANY TIMES)
4. Stopped Ignoring that there ARE MANY Climate Scientists who are against AGW, and even more who are just silent due to not wanting to lose their jobs.
5. Stopped thinking that it can ONLY be a Climate Scientist who can look at facts and data to make judgments, ESPECIALLY if in contrast the opposite individuals are HIGHLY Intellectually/Scientifically trained and experienced like Tony Heller is. Since when are scientists in general (or even anyone) "incapable" of analyzing data and incapable of being familiar with all the information on a subject and then making an educated judgment?
6. Actually looked at Tony Hellers blog, and saw for yourself that there is likely literally NOBODY more informed on Climate Science claims, history of climate claims, etc. as this guy.
1. Stopped attacking "personalities".
2. Judged the content/materials yourself by actually studying it, instead of just quoting some attack made by someone else, as IF they are the "authority", or mistake that may have been made, as if that invalidates everything a person does.
3. Stopped Appealing to Authority (consensus in science has been wrong MANY TIMES)
4. Stopped Ignoring that there ARE MANY Climate Scientists who are against AGW, and even more who are just silent due to not wanting to lose their jobs.
5. Stopped thinking that it can ONLY be a Climate Scientist who can look at facts and data to make judgments, ESPECIALLY if in contrast the opposite individuals are HIGHLY Intellectually/Scientifically trained and experienced like Tony Heller is. Since when are scientists in general (or even anyone) "incapable" of analyzing data and incapable of being familiar with all the information on a subject and then making an educated judgment?
6. Actually looked at Tony Hellers blog, and saw for yourself that there is likely literally NOBODY more informed on Climate Science claims, history of climate claims, etc. as this guy.
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Re: Climate REALITY... The Simple Truth... Raw U.S. Data!
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Don't get sucked into fake news, ldsfaqs.
Too late. faqs is our foremost purveyor of fake news and fake facts.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:So, he doesn't have a degree in climatology. He hasn't written a single academic paper about climate change and doesn't have a job related to climatology or the weather.
Which is fine.
Here's blog and Twitter:
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/
https://Twitter.com/stevesgoddard
Here's a blog post about his eventual debunking on a claim that the National Snow and Ice Data Center was fudging its numbers:
https://tonyhellerakastevengoddard.com/2014/10/02/____/
Boy, that was embarrassing.How Steve Goddard a.k.a. Tony Heller does bad science
http://gregladen.com/blog/2018/08/08/ho ... d-science/
Don't get sucked into fake news, ldsfaqs.
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Your second to last link is just wow, some utter insanity there by Leftists.
Your last link LOL...
1. Do you actually think that "short" entirely non-intellectual blog post debunks anything?
2. Do you even look at what you're claiming debunks Tony Heller.
I want you to look at that second chart carefully...
Do you see the 1940's Warm Period, a.k.a. the Dust Bowl?
First, your so-called "scientists" ELIMINATE that LONG known Warm Period (a.k.a. Dust Bowl) in their most recent charts, which is absolute FRAUD.
Second, can you tell us HOW NOW is actually WARMER than the Great Depression/Dust Bowl period, by a LOT even...?
I'm also still waiting to be shown how the RAW DATA is "lies" when it shows ZERO Warming, but those who manipulate the data after the fact showing Warming, such as I mention above is the "actual truth".
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faqs, game over. You trashed your rep here over the years with your insistence on misrepresenting data or outright lying, and all chances available to you to correct your mendacity result in you refusing to engage facts, and abandoning your own threads.
You whored yourself out to propaganda-producing special interests long ago and have lost the argument, but you're too proud to accept the truth of that.
You whored yourself out to propaganda-producing special interests long ago and have lost the argument, but you're too proud to accept the truth of that.
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canpakes wrote:You whored yourself out to propaganda-producing special interests long ago and have lost the argument, but you're too proud to accept the truth of that.
In short, he is a Trump clone. And that is not a complement!
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Re: Climate REALITY... The Simple Truth... Raw U.S. Data!
I’ve looked at Heller’s blog. I’ve seen his dishonest nonsense debunked hundreds of times. No wonder faqs loves him.
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Why engage with FAQs on this? Total waste of time. Put him on ignore, and move on with life.
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Re: Climate REALITY... The Simple Truth... Raw U.S. Data!
SteelHead wrote:Why engage with FAQs on this? Total waste of time. Put him on ignore, and move on with life.
ldsfaqs is one of those people that are heavily influence by youtube personalities who spout theories that are in direct opposition to reality. These people are the foundation of Trump's base. We are living in strange times.
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Re: Climate REALITY... The Simple Truth... Raw U.S. Data!
DarkHelmet wrote:SteelHead wrote:Why engage with FAQs on this? Total waste of time. Put him on ignore, and move on with life.
ldsfaqs is one of those people that are heavily influence by youtube personalities who spout theories that are in direct opposition to reality. These people are the foundation of Trump's base. We are living in strange times.
I thought faqs quit posting... at least, as faqs. I thought Bach was his new login. They're both completely divorced from reality and a waste of time to read.
What's most amusing about this thread is the idea faqs thought he could change someone's mind. LOL What a maroon.
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