How the Democrats win in a Landslide

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Re: How the Democrats win in a Landslide

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ajax18 wrote:Dam.... you would think after the Democrats claim to cherish equality, homophobia, and woman’s rights the finalists of the party would look different...…

Let’s see....,, they have revoked 5 people of color, a gay guy, and several woman.
All that’s left is 3 old millionaire white men......I’m totally confused!!!

I have long been aware that you're totally confused. Why else would anyone so sycophantically support someone as demonstrably corrupt, incompetent, pathologically dishonest and bigoted as Donald J. Trump?
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I am greatly disappointed that the candidates who have dropped out of the race are endorsing Biden instead of Sanders or Warren. I trust, though, that they will yet end up supporting Sanders, if he succeeds in winning the nomination.
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ajax18 wrote:Dam.... you would think after the Democrats claim to cherish equality, homophobia, and woman’s rights the finalists of the party would look different...…

Let’s see....,, they have revoked 5 people of color, a gay guy, and several woman.
All that’s left is 3 old millionaire white men......I’m totally confused!!!


Were you drunk when you posted this?

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Gunnar wrote:I am greatly disappointed that the candidates who have dropped out of the race are endorsing Biden instead of Sanders or Warren. I trust, though, that they will yet end up supporting Sanders, if he succeeds in winning the nomination.

Buttigieg and Klobuchar aren't in the same side of the ideological divide as Sanders and Warren. Granted I thought the line probably went between Warren and Buttigieg, but you have to know they both dropped out ahead of today's primaries to take away some of the advantage their splitting the moderate vote gave to Sanders. It's a rally behind Biden move before a quarter of the votes get cast today. If they were interested in helping Bernie win, they could have helped it more by staying in the race and then giving their delegates to him at the convention.

The interesting dynamic not getting talk d about much is the riff between Warren and Sanders. She appears to be in it for the long haul, hoping to be the spoiler when no one comes in with a majority of delegates. And she is taking shots at Sanders as much as she is attacking Blumeberg but from the opposite direction. It seems her reputation for being progressive, which is solid, is being misunderstood by voters who want to ascribe her to the Bernie camp. She won points with me this weekend when she pointed out a complaint I have about Bernie. That being, for someone with a thirty year career being a critic, he did nothing effective to curb the issues he complains of or progress the issues he supports. He was a dismally ineffective politician when it comes down to business of legislating. Sure, many will say he has done much to shift the Overton window of the Democratic party which has to be given some credit. But I don't think that's accurate. Like Trump, he and those who have a similar message seem to be benefiting from the fallout of multiple decades of increasing wealth inequality that voters experience daily and lived through the worst moments including the great recession, and Bernie is appealing like Trump because he a) is uncompromising and b) promising the moon without a price tag. That's not shifting the window, it's playing to ignorance and frustration by promising a fantasy. The demographic to which that appeals most leans young.
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Democrats blew a big advantage by not going with Buttigieg. To see a sharp and honest future leader on the same stage with a corrupt and blithering idiot... that might have encouraged even diehard Republicans to vote for Buttigieg.
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He wasn't winning the diversity vote. He had issues, as did Klobuchar, in appealing to non-white moderate voters. Who knows what might have been, but I suspect he will be working on his broader appeal going forward and likely have a job in the White House if the Democrat wins in November.
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Gunnar wrote:I am greatly disappointed that the candidates who have dropped out of the race are endorsing Biden instead of Sanders or Warren. I trust, though, that they will yet end up supporting Sanders, if he succeeds in winning the nomination.


Sanders is not really a Democrat, and having him as the Democrat nominee will likely hurt several moderate Democrats running for Congress and Senate.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... -in-new-ad
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Sanders is not really a Democrat, and having him as the Democrat nominee will likely hurt several moderate Democrats running for Congress and Senate.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... -in-new-ad


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ajax18 wrote:
I see you're still a part of the establishment even though you're now a Democrat.


I am a registered Independent.
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moksha wrote:Democrats blew a big advantage by not going with Buttigieg. To see a sharp and honest future leader on the same stage with a corrupt and blithering idiot... that might have encouraged even diehard Republicans to vote for Buttigieg.


Castro, Booker, and Warren all seem sharper than Buttigieg if that was your thing.

Everyone looks better by comparison next to Trump. Biden seems to be cognitively losing it in real time (awesome job with that choice Democrats), but otherwise not a one of them isn't going to contrast favorably with Trump on those grounds.
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