Stark Reality of Ineptitude of Trump's Covid-19 Response

[_Jersey Girl]

This starkly tragic comparison is not disputed even by FOX News! Anyone who still thinks that the Trump administration has handled this crisis better or even as well as other nations, and shares no responsibility or blame for this travesty is a flaming, delusional idiot!

Yes and buddy boy in the White House boasts that we have administered 20 million tests. Have I got that right? What? What kind of tests? 20 million in a country of more than 328 million residents while he and his administration gets tested on demand? The accuracy of the much lauded Abbott test is now being called into question. This has been mishandled from the get go and as if we didn't know that already, the current hearings are proving it without a shadow of a doubt.

From all I have read and listened to, this country can NOT wait until November election to shift course. Something needs to be done about it NOW. Is the US willing to roll the dice and bet on a Biden win when we'll likely be up to our eyeballs in a second wave hit of this virus before November because by January (when/if he takes oath) we'll already be screwed out of our minds and our lives?

He knows he's backed into a corner with this Obamagate BS he's come out with. It's a desperate attempt to cause a diversion and shift his messaging toward election while the states re-open on their own without federal support like he wanted them to and the number of new cases and deaths continues to climb. The question is, will he shift course on his own? I think not.

Look at what the hell he's said about children returning to school. We'll have enough tests to test teachers? Teachers? What about the children? If he's willing to turn a blind eye to the well being of children then we don't stand a chance here.

I don't know what can be done about this but something has got to change here. It's possible that the American public will change the course of this roller coaster ride into hell on their own by not patronizing businesses and maintaining their own stay at home orders. But I don't count on it.

[_Gunnar]

Given the penchant of Trump to fire people who tell him truths that are uncomfortable to him or make him look bad, I worry about him trying to get rid of the very people with both the necessary competence and integrity needed to lead us through this crisis.

[_Gunnar]

Pretty sure the religious answer would be that the higher incidence of COVID-19 is due to God's wrath for electing Donald Trump.

Ironically, as I know you realize, it seems that the support of some of the most dominant, overtly religious groups is a large part of what made Trump's election almost inevitable. They are the very ones to whom God's wrath ought to be directed if He were really inclined to direct it to anyone. Even among Mormons, a majority of them voted for Trump. I can think of few things that more strongly discredit any claim by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints being especially favored or led by divine inspiration.

[_ajax18]

1. The USA with only 4.25% of the world's population has just under 32% of the entire corona virus cases on earth. This exceeds the combined total of the next 6 nations combined plus China.

2. As Mitt Romney pointed out, despite Trump's boasts, our record of testing for corona virus is nothing to celebrate, when we consider that by early March when the USA had tested only 2,000 and Trump was still downplaying the serious of the pandemic and dismissing the need for strong mitigating measures. South Korea, by that time, had already tested 140,000--70 times as many, and initiated strict social distancing, quarantines and shutdowns to mitigate the impending crisis. Now, about 2 1/2 months later, South Korea has had only 10,962 confirmed cases and only 259 deaths. In contrast, the number of cases in the US (with only 6.6 times South Korea's population) has accumulated more than 1,388,00 confirmed cases (almost 127 times as many as South Korea) and 83,715 deaths (more than 323 times as many) and still counting rapidly.

This starkly tragic comparison is not disputed even by FOX News! Anyone who still thinks that the Trump administration has handled this crisis better or even as well as other nations, and shares no responsibility or blame for this travesty is a flaming, delusional idiot!

Steve Schmidt, a former GOP strategist who successfully managed GW Bush's Presidential campaign, rightly blasted Trump for the most inept response to "any crisis in history!"

I expected you to be happy about this Gunnar. Look how good collapsing the world economy has been for the environment. Oil is down to $14/barrel with nowhere to store it. You above all people know that the biggest threat to humanity is climate change, not China, not coronavirus. You should be dancing in the streets.

Just keep printing inflated money and jail anyone who goes back to work. Do you prefer to tax working people in rural red states to pay for a 3 year shutdown in urban America or just put it all on the tab?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Ajax,

What’s stopping you from working? You can do all sorts of things in the ‘essential’ industries. Or be a patriot. Strike out on your own as a rugged individualist, and start your own business. Defy the Liberal deep state and work. Use your love of capitalism to reject socialist currencies and barter for your services. Stop being a pussy and live your supposed convictions. Cut off your addiction to federal dollars being pumped into your bank account, and fire up your entrepreneurial American spirit.

- Doc

[_ajax18]

What’s stopping you from working?

Thankfully nothing as of a week. But I don't think Democrats are too happy with that. EAllusion says I have blood on my hands for going back to work after six weeks even at our reduced pace to keep up with the cleaning and disinfecting. People do have legitimate reasons for not being able to find a job at this point. I've seen how impossible finding a job has been over the past 6 weeks. An indefinite shutdown is lunacy. If that's what blue states want than they should find a way to pay for that on their own.

[_Res Ipsa]

What’s stopping you from working?

Thankfully nothing as of a week. But I don't think Democrats are too happy with that. EAllusion says I have blood on my hands for going back to work after six weeks even at our reduced pace to keep up with the cleaning and disinfecting. People do have legitimate reasons for not being able to find a job at this point. I've seen how impossible finding a job has been over the past 6 weeks. An indefinite shutdown is lunacy. If that's what blue states want than they should find a way to pay for that on their own.

Who is promoting an indefinite shutdown?

[_ajax18]

Well it's encouraging to hear you ask that. How long is this partial shutdown going to be? How long should it be in your opinion? With no vaccine, whether we open now or 6 months from now, you're still going to get a spike in cases. Thankfully it hasn't been near as many deaths as the "scientists," predicted. We've done about as much as we can do to flatten the curve. We need to go back to work.

The stay at home rules for LA County are indefinite.

[_EAllusion]

Ajax - Can you explain why there is a laundry list of nations that have relatively low case and death counts of COVID after instituting systems to test, trace, and isolate people preventively? Since it is inevitable that the kind of mass death the US is seeing, even with some restrictions in place, will happen no matter what you do, why do those places exist?

[_ajax18]

Ajax - Can you explain why there is a laundry list of nations that have relatively low case and death counts of COVID after instituting systems to test, trace, and isolate people preventively? Since it is inevitable that the kind of mass death the US is seeing, even with some restrictions in place, will happen no matter what you do, why do those places exist?

How do you know the data you're getting is accurate or that it's being counted the same way as in the US. And I'm not really seeing mass death from this. I know a lot of people out of a job because of it but I've yet to meet someone who had corona virus.