The Idea of Secession

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ajax18 wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:46 pm
I dunno. Did you read my post? I’d have to weigh the pros and cons of going to Florida. What does that have to do with secession?

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I'm just saying that since Florida is such a dangerous place and COVID petri dish due to right wing pandemic policies and lack of lockdowns, masking, etc, I would think people would be scared to go there. But they're not and sadly they're bringing their failed liberal politics with them. Home prices are skyrocketing in Florida.
No, because I’m an American.
You can still draw your social security check in Costa Rica. You can even use your Medicare at the hospital there. If Texas were a different country and you wanted to live there for some nonpolitical reason, why would that be any different?
I don’t draw social security nor do I use Medicare. I feel like you’re talking to someone else, or at least to a parody of who you think “we” are. And ok, you didn’t read my post because if you had you wouldn’t have asked that retarded question about living in Texas.

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And ok, you didn’t read my post because if you had you wouldn’t have asked that retarded question about living in Texas.

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You know I don't read.
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Part of me wishes that states had more freedom to do as they like. I would love to see what ultimately happened. The one condition would be that every five years underprivileged people could request a federally subsidized move to a state of their choosing. I want to see states with official churches. States run like a progressive’s sweet dream. Let’s see which systems ultimately work out. Part of our problem is that we want to force everyone to live as we feel they should. Sometimes I am curious to see what would happen if everyone on my campus were packing heat, bringing their legal firearms to class. Would this be a nightmare, or just another day? I am tired of all of the damn drama and hyperventilating on all sides.
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ajax18 wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:14 pm
There won't be any bad precedents set during Hurricane Katrina to follow. Most people will not choose to build in the flood plane.
As an example, nearly all of Baton Rouge lays within the high-risk flood zone.

Does the New Confederacy plan on moving folks out of the zone, and setting them up elsewhere?

People will be permitted to exercise common sense and cut down 80 foot tall, 3,000 lb pine trees before they build their house, not after.
I don’t know how 80-foot tall pine trees entered the conversation, but if it has something to do with hurricanes, then I dare say that pine trees aren’t going to be your major problem, there.

We'll have all the capital we'd ever need as investors from all over the world would seek us out due to our competitively low taxes.
You’ll need to compete with at least 10 other places that offer 0% corporate tax rates -
  • Anguilla
  • Bahamas
  • Bahrain
  • Bermuda
  • Cayman Islands
  • Guernsey
  • Isle of Man
  • Jersey
  • Turks and Caicos Islands
  • Vanuatu
Note that none of these are industrial or military powerhouses, and most have a wide and disappointing disparity of wealth within their citizenry. And that low corporate rate isn’t the primary driver of their economy. The Bahamas, as a popular example, derives about 60% of its revenue from tourism to boot … from the US. Entities incorporated in the Bahamas are allowed the 0% rate only if they don’t derive revenue from operations conducted in the Bahamas. Many of these entities are banks, and it’s unlikely that they’re going to relocate to the New Confederacy, for several reasons.

You may want to rethink your strategy, given this, and the fact that a low corporate rate means that you’re not making much revenue from those entities. That can work for tiny islands (look at that list); not so much for something the size of the New Confederacy.

We'll build the strongest military the world has ever seen.
You’re going to have some high income tax rates, then.
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I don't see secession on the horizon, but then again I thought Donald Trump was laughable in 2015. The divisions within our country could possibly set up some migration patterns. If you were looking to locate a medical practice, are you looking at state taxes or are there other long-term considerations, like the quality of public health or education in the state?

Climate change will continue to effect low-lying coastal areas. Places like New Orleans will slowly become more unlivable. As temperatures rise, I think the South East will be susceptible to 'wet bulb' days, where it is dangerous to go outside.

So for reasons social and meteorological, I see the South East trending down on population over the next decades. But I bet $10 on Sonny Liston to beat Cassius Clay, so consider the source.
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ajax18 wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:46 pm
I'm just saying that since Florida is such a dangerous place and COVID petri dish due to right wing pandemic policies and lack of lockdowns, masking, etc, I would think people would be scared to go there. But they're not and sadly they're bringing their failed liberal politics with them. Home prices are skyrocketing in Florida.
How are ‘liberal politics’ making home prices skyrocket in Florida?
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The one condition would be that every five years underprivileged people could request a federally subsidized move to a state of their choosing.
Where would underprivileged people be moving in your opinion?
I don't see secession on the horizon, but then again I thought Donald Trump was laughable in 2015.
I don't see how it could ever happen. It's just fun for me to dream about since my side will always be in the minority and voting is useless for us.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:07 pm
Where would underprivileged people be moving in your opinion?
Other states where they might have better opportunities.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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Part of me wishes that states had more freedom to do as they like. I would love to see what ultimately happened.
It is a shame we can't have this.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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canpakes wrote:
Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:22 am
We'll build the strongest military the world has ever seen.
You’re going to have some high income tax rates, then.
> strongest military in history

also

> super duper low taxes

Xanax. Do you have any damned grasp on reality? How is the New Confederacy going to pay for this historically strong military? You gonna have a bake sale?

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