Trump attempted assassination at Rally Today?! He was bleeding

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Gunnar wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:24 am
I agree that the shooter and/or whoever conspired with or motivated him to attempt this had to be incredibly stupid to think that this would somehow help Biden's and the Democrats' chances to win in November, whether or not the assassination attempt succeeded. I think it more likely that the shooter had a personal vendetta against Trump himself and couldn't care less about what other consequences might result from it. Also, more likely than a motivation to ensure Biden's election, is a determination to damage to damage the entire country and the democratic process itself, regardless of which political parties would be hurt most by it. I think those are the 2 likeliest motivations behind this. Either a personal vendetta against Trump himself, regardless of whom else gets hurt, or a terrorist act by some entity, either foreign or domestic, who wants to hurt the entire nation and what we stand for.

I hope that the least likely motivation for this act was an attempt by MAGA to stage a false flag scenario in order to blame Biden and the Democrats for the attempt. Can we safely rule that out? I hope so!
Gunnar, take your conspiracies elsewhere. Unreal. You are on the wrong side of normal and or history with this rhetoric.
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And Trump made the unfortunate but predictable choice of pumping his fist in the air and chanting, “fight, fight, fight!”

It’s not just the galvanization that would occur with any event like this that is worrisome, much more worrisome is how he may use this event for evil purposes. He was already promising “retribution” and now he can point to a vivid scene that shows why he should seek retribution.

This is a potentially catastrophic event. It feels like we are cursed. God, this is so incredibly awful.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:36 am
And Trump made the unfortunate but predictable choice of pumping his fist in the air and chanting, “fight, fight, fight!”

It’s not just the galvanization that would occur with any event like this that is worrisome, much more worrisome is how he may use this event for evil purposes. He was already promising “retribution” and now he can point to a vivid scene that shows why he should seek retribution.

This is a potentially catastrophic event. It feels like we are cursed. God, this is so incredibly awful.
There is a better path forward. The Democratic Party can come to terms with reality and begin to search for a non-Biden candidate. They can ask the American people who they want to run. They can do it at the National Democratic Convention, like it used to be done.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:36 am
And Trump made the unfortunate but predictable choice of pumping his fist in the air and chanting, “fight, fight, fight!”

It’s not just the galvanization that would occur with any event like this that is worrisome, much more worrisome is how he may use this event for evil purposes. He was already promising “retribution” and now he can point to a vivid scene that shows why he should seek retribution.

This is a potentially catastrophic event. It feels like we are cursed. God, this is so incredibly awful.
well, in the Last Days the wicked will be destroyed by the Wicked is the watch word. On a more heavy note actually, I note the Navajo prophecies do say to beware of the man in the red hat.
Yes, this will unhinge Trump in the kookiest ways. Now he will speak his mind freely, and still get elected. The more he lies, the larger his crowd gets. It's a hex I tell you. The curse of America is here. I mean, he somehow dodges every single bullet sent his way, metaphorically or literally. It ain't coincidence. God may very well have decided all right you want lies and problems, and civil war and death, let me get the right guy for you in.
Yeah, o.k. that's the optimistic side. I promised myself I wouldn't get to the pessimistic view, it's blood and horror.
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drumdude wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:48 am
There is a better path forward. The Democratic Party can come to terms with reality and begin to search for a non-Biden candidate. They can ask the American people who they want to run. They can do it at the National Democratic Convention, like it used to be done.
I am really not interested in delusional non-sequiturs right now.
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drumdude wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:48 am
Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:36 am
And Trump made the unfortunate but predictable choice of pumping his fist in the air and chanting, “fight, fight, fight!”

It’s not just the galvanization that would occur with any event like this that is worrisome, much more worrisome is how he may use this event for evil purposes. He was already promising “retribution” and now he can point to a vivid scene that shows why he should seek retribution.

This is a potentially catastrophic event. It feels like we are cursed. God, this is so incredibly awful.
There is a better path forward. The Democratic Party can come to terms with reality and begin to search for a non-Biden candidate. They can ask the American people who they want to run. They can do it at the National Democratic Convention, like it used to be done.
Love yer optimism, but Jesus Christ could come back and run for election, and Trump followers will vote for Trump. Jesus? F*ck that noise, we got MAGA BABY!!!
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Gunnar wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:24 am
I think it more likely that the shooter had a personal vendetta against Trump himself and couldn't care less about what other consequences might result from it.
I think it more likely that the shooter had heard, and heard, and heard, and heard the grossly irresponsible talk about Trump being an existential threat to democracy and Hitler and an evil racist and a KGB agent and a fascist and a murderous dictator - and was trying to be a hero and save America from this evil monster.

I hope that the least likely motivation for this act was an attempt by MAGA to stage a false flag scenario in order to blame Biden and the Democrats for the attempt. Can we safely rule that out? I hope so!
I highly doubt that you can. Good God!
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ceeboo wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:52 am
Gunnar wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:24 am
I think it more likely that the shooter had a personal vendetta against Trump himself and couldn't care less about what other consequences might result from it.
I think it more likely that the shooter had heard, and heard, and heard, and heard the grossly irresponsible talk about Trump being an existential threat to democracy and Hitler and an evil racist and a KGB agent and a fascist and a murderous dictator - and was trying to be a hero and save America from this evil monster.

I hope that the least likely motivation for this act was an attempt by MAGA to stage a false flag scenario in order to blame Biden and the Democrats for the attempt. Can we safely rule that out? I hope so!
I highly doubt that you can. Good God!
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:49 am
well, in the Last Days the wicked will be destroyed by the Wicked is the watch word. On a more heavy note actually, I note the Navajo prophecies do say to beware of the man in the red hat.
Yes, this will unhinge Trump in the kookiest ways. Now he will speak his mind freely, and still get elected. The more he lies, the larger his crowd gets. It's a hex I tell you. The curse of America is here. I mean, he somehow dodges every single bullet sent his way, metaphorically or literally. It ain't coincidence. God may very well have decided all right you want lies and problems, and civil war and death, let me get the right guy for you in.
Yeah, o.k. that's the optimistic side. I promised myself I wouldn't get to the pessimistic view, it's blood and horror.
It is frankly bizarre. At the very least the chickens are coming home to roost. We turned our culture into marketing and vulgar entertainment. Trump fits the bill. He’s a distillation of the vulgarity and mediocrity we have to offer. That’s one reason he is irresistible to many. But, you got to give him props, he knew instinctively how best to exploit the opportunity of the assassination attempt in a dangerous way.
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:52 am
drumdude wrote:
Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:48 am


There is a better path forward. The Democratic Party can come to terms with reality and begin to search for a non-Biden candidate. They can ask the American people who they want to run. They can do it at the National Democratic Convention, like it used to be done.
Love yer optimism, but Jesus Christ could come back and run for election, and Trump followers will vote for Trump. Jesus? F*Celestial Kingdom that, we got MAGA BABY!!!
I don't believe in that kind of fatalism. The only reason, in my opinion, that Trump is so highly predicted to win is not because Trump is a strong candidate. It's because Biden is the weakest Presidential candidate we've ever seen. And I mean weak in every sense of the word - the man is not physically capable of holding the office any longer.

Americans are yearning, begging, dying for a 3rd option and the Democratic party holds the power to provide it.
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