Anti racist baby by Ibraim Kennedy

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So Res Ipsa maybe you could answer my question that neither Cam nor Schmo would touch.

Do you think that laws with disparate outcomes should be struck down by the anti racism department of the government?

How would this work exactly? If 10 black people are in jail for stealing for every 1 white person and every 0.2 Asian people, should laws against theft be struck down because of the disparate outcome? Would we be left with a law against non black races stealing and no law for blacks that would punish stealing or would there simply be no more law that says you can't steal? Or would there be a separate law for stealing depending on your race?

Would you go along more with Bernie Sanders that rich and poor is due to class structure or in line with Ibram Kendi that rich and poor is a function of race not class? Can whites be poor in Ibram Kendi's world or are all whites privileged due to the level of pigmentation in their skin? Is it possible that individual choices and the choices of family members can contribute to the disparity in racial prosperity or are things like punctuality and hard work merely racist terms that have no contribution nor bearing on socioeconomic status?
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ajax18 wrote:
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Is it possible that individual choices and the choices of family members can contribute to the disparity in racial prosperity or are things like punctuality and hard work merely racist terms that have no contribution nor bearing on socioeconomic status?
Unfortunately, the best predictors of an individual's level of income nowadays appear to be the income of his or her parents, and the place where they were born. America was perhaps once a country where individual effort was often a major determinant of individual prosperity (so long as you were not too black), but it has not looked like that for some time now, more's the pity

Basically, the children of the rich can nowadays hope to be better off than their parents, since wealth can be protected from tax and made to grow to produce gains without much work by its possessors. The children of the middle class that once was the backbone of US society will mostly be poorer and more insecure than their parents ever were.

The wonderful thing for the very rich, of course, is that many of those slipping-down middle class people still believe they can one day be rich too. Ain't going to happen, but it suits the rich (and getting richer) for them to keep their cherished illusions, and if they do begin to feel doubts to blame their problems on wicked Ladinos of the kind Trump hires to work in his hotels and resorts. Fox News is happy to oblige ...
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So would Lebron James, Barack Obama or Michael Jordan's kids be among the privleged rich or is this only true for the kids of rich white people?

I don't work in hopes of being rich nor am I under the illusion that someday I won't have to work. I do it for my kids ultimately and for my own life right now.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:56 pm
So Res Ipsa maybe you could answer my question that neither Cam nor Schmo would touch.
I don't see any point trying to have an honest conversation with a dishonest person.

I haven't read the book, so I wouldn't comment on it anyway.

I did appreciate RI's summary, however.
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Ajax, you’re on ignore. So if you’re trying to engage me, you are wasting your time. As to personal responsibility, you don’t ever take responsibility for the things that make your life unhappy. It’s both lazy and hypocritical for you to simply assume that everyone else’s problems are because they don’t take personal responsibility. It’s simply a convenient excuse you can throw out because it doesn’t cost you anything and feeds your white supremacy.
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Some Schmo wrote:I don't see any point trying to have an honest conversation with a dishonest person.
Res Ipsa wrote: Ajax, you’re on ignore. So if you’re trying to engage me, you are wasting your time. As to personal responsibility, you don’t ever take responsibility for the things that make your life unhappy. It’s both lazy and hypocritical for you to simply assume that everyone else’s problems are because they don’t take personal responsibility. It’s simply a convenient excuse you can throw out because it doesn’t cost you anything and feeds your white supremacy.

Well since everyone is saying stuff, I'll admit that I only read the first line of the OP. I started to scan the rest and decided to pass. Why. Because nothing you post, ajax18, is relevant to me in my life, it's typically intended to reinforce some bias of yours, and you display little to no intellectual curiosity nor a desire to honestly explore much less adopt, differing points of view. I can't read one more second of your meandering BS or the meandering anti-intellectual BS that you quote.

So, in keeping with my New Year's intention to continue to eliminate people who produce a toxic effect in me, I'm going to kind of rage purge you and subgenius out of my sight for the duration by putting you both on ignore. You'll be in the good company of mg.

It's perfectly okay with me if you do you, and folks around here want to attempt to engage you. All too often, an attempt to engage devolves into abuse and I don't wish to be a part of it. I gave you an honest shot here.

I'm done trying.

I do wish you both well but I'm just done.
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I've heard of....
Ajax, almost everything you hear from your fellow right-wingers is false. End of discussion.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:36 am
I've heard of....
Ajax, almost everything you hear from your fellow right-wingers is false. End of discussion.
I'll take that as a no as well. The left's case falls apart based on the facts and is indefensible in this case even for someone as smart as Gad or perhaps even the devil himself.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:22 am
Gadianton wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:36 am


Ajax, almost everything you hear from your fellow right-wingers is false. End of discussion.
I'll take that as a no as well. The left's case falls apart based on the facts and is indefensible in this case even for someone as smart as Gad or perhaps even the devil himself.
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