There's an element of communist politics at the city level that is driving up the cost of our utility bills. I had the same house and the same number of kids. The bill went up during the pandemic. Some of it might be direct socialism for those that refuse to pay their utility bills but due to laws preventing them from having their electric disconnected for nonpayment, people on the other side of town like me an my neighbors have to pay for them as well. But a lot of it is due to environmentalist idiocy including a failed biomass plant that was a disaster. I think we often fail to involve ourselves in local politics due to national political distractions, which is foolish because the local politics have the most expensive negative effects.
I doubt it had anything to do with communism. Not all incompetence and poor civic planning is necessarily attributable to communism. Nor is it impossible to design a biomass plant without botching it up. There are a lot of communities, farmers and businesses that utilize biomass energy very profitably and happily. Do you want me to find some good examples of that and post the links to them? Would you bother to look at them if I did?
One thing that bothers me a lot are so called discussions where people talk at one another using generalizations and ideological stand ins.
I am interested in the specifics of Ajax's situation. Arguing communism!!!! on his end and GREEN ENERGY!!!! on the other isn't meaningful. Both aren't getting past broad brushed regurgitation of positions.
Whether or not Ajax is able to get past his conservative talking points to engage the subject seriously aside, I think the only way things get better is if we all do the same, moving past talking points to genuinely listen and engage with those specifics. Whatever else, it seems Ajax genuinely has an issue with a utility bill increase. So, that's something to look at more closely.
For quite some time I've shared information on the old board describing how Trump was pushing behaviors that were inflating the market.
Yes I remember your arguments. I also remember Obama blaming Bush for the bad economy for 8 years. Whoever you want to credit it for, the preCovid economy in the US was wonderful. All boats seemed to be lifted. I count myself blessed to have been alive and working to take part in it. And I doubt we'll ever see it again.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Whatever else, it seems Ajax genuinely has an issue with a utility bill increase. So, that's something to look at more closely.
People have tried to do this.
But he will not respond to attempts to get him to describe the situation in which this increase took place, and basically just keeps repeating his complaint, decorated with references to communism, socialism, liberals and so on.
His grievance appears to be too precious for him to put it on the table and let other people examine it. He just can't risk losing it!
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Mayan Elephant:
Not only have I denounced the Big Lie, I have denounced the Big lie big lie.
Yes I remember your arguments. I also remember Obama blaming Bush for the bad economy for 8 years. Whoever you want to credit it for, the preCovid economy in the US was wonderful. All boats seemed to be lifted. I count myself blessed to have been alive and working to take part in it. And I doubt we'll ever see it again.
I do not remember the history being hidden. The economy suffered a severe drop in the last months of the Bush presidency. That could not be Obama's fault. The economy steadly improved over the Obama years.
For quite some time I've shared information on the old board describing how Trump was pushing behaviors that were inflating the market.
Yes I remember your arguments. I also remember Obama blaming Bush for the bad economy for 8 years. Whoever you want to credit it for, the preCovid economy in the US was wonderful. All boats seemed to be lifted. I count myself blessed to have been alive and working to take part in it. And I doubt we'll ever see it again.
What exactly do you think was better in 2017-2019? And what contributed to it occuring?
I have to believe you know that the housing and credit markets collapsed at the end of 2008 which was unlike any other economic crisis experienced in a generation. And it was caused by a complete breakdown of good lending practices in the housing and financial markets that shattered trust and left immense amounts of supposed value vanishing since they were built on false premises. So what was your issue with how th Obama administration was working with Congress and the private sector to recover from that?
What exactly do you think was better in 2017-2019? And what contributed to it occuring?
My S corp was awesome. I finally broke out from underneath the corporate boot of retail optometry. Trump's tax laws helped that happen. We didn't see much radical Islamic terrorism in the US. Unfair trade agreements were renegotiated in America's favor. Wages rose as employers could no longer rely on illegal immigrant labor to pay workers less. America went from being dependent on the middle east and Venezuela for oil to becoming not only energy independent but an energy exporter.
I have to believe you know that the housing and credit markets collapsed at the end of 2008 which was unlike any other economic crisis experienced in a generation. And it was caused by a complete breakdown of good lending practices in the housing and financial markets that shattered trust and left immense amounts of supposed value vanishing since they were built on false premises.
The government should never have been allowed to tell banks who they had to lend to. That was the breakdown. The government should never have paid off hurricane destroyed homes of people who refused to purchase flood insurance.
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And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
I do not remember the history being hidden. The economy suffered a severe drop in the last months of the Bush presidency. That could not be Obama's fault. The economy steadly improved over the Obama years.
And at a faster rate than at any time during Trump's tenure - even before the pandemic hit us.
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
But a lot of it is due to environmentalist idiocy including a failed biomass plant that was a disaster. I think we often fail to involve ourselves in local politics due to national political distractions, which is foolish because the local politics have the most expensive negative effects.
Was this the Biomass plant in nearby Anisville, Georgia where they first attempted to extract moonshine from the hog droppings? Much better local oversight may have prevented this problem and produced a tastier moonshine.
Had Trump remained president, how many more years would it take to get your bill back down to 250?
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
