Trump is not a fascist

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Re: Trump is not a fascist

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Markk wrote:
Thu May 01, 2025 12:43 pm
Have you called ICE on your non-cit employees and their illegal relatives, yet? Why or why not?
His plan, again whether you like it of not, is working.
What’s his plan, Markk? (I’m surprised that you haven’t figured out yet why I’m asking this) : )
Tariffs have not been a bust, he is doing exactly what I have been telling you he would do, he is using them as leverage.
I think that if you look at the initial imposition of them on Canada and Mexico, you could argue that they were an attempt to do that. But they’ve just turned into a shyteshow at this time, and the Administration really doesn’t know what it’s doing, and relying more on ‘let’s see what doesn’t backfire so that we can get [fill in undefined want] while pretending that it isn’t a hidden tax on our citizens’.
… he used them as leverage to help close the border,
No.
… and he is now using them for major corporations to invest in America.
That’s the story being given the public, when Trump isn’t switching to, “tariffs will replace taxes!”, right? Which is it, today?

The reality is that tariffs have been enacted to finance Trump’s budget-busting millionaire’s tax cut extension. The way Trump has thrown tariffs about isn’t really going to result in more than a trickle of companies making major new investments here, but we’ve talked about this elsewhere. Proof will come down the road about whether you or I are correct about your imagined manufacturing renaissance.
Because of the tariffs, business leaders around the world are promising to move forward with trillions of dollars of investments in the US.
That Koolaid sounds fantastic. Trillions, eh? The Administration can hardly point to millions initiated by the tariff fiasco.
It seem you plan by what you wrote here is that we should have just continued to let out trading partners rip us off, and because Trump is not having that, they no longer trust us in that we are not letting them rip us off. Maybe you can explain more how that works?
No, I don’t need to explain why you don’t understand how trade works. : )
Another part of his plan was to be open with the people, and actually communicate with the American people....which no one can deny in comparison to the last administration.
I can tell you that your claim is bullshyte. No apologies for doing so, either. Spouting dumb lies, egregious exaggeration, bad propaganda and butthurt complaints at every opportunity is not being ‘open with the people’. The man is incapable of not communicating like a pathologically lying 13-year old sociopath, completely devoid of morals, honesty or compassion. Given his daily behavior and his past, I have no idea how you shoehorn support for him within your Christian moral framework, but that’s a topic for another thread.

Last night I watched an interview segment where Trump was complaining that Garcia had MS13 tattooed on his knuckles. When the interviewer reminded Trump that the actual letters and numbers ‘M S 1 3’ were edited in to superimpose on the photo as if to define the small tattoos below, Trump insisted - multiple times more - that the actual letters and numbers were physically tattooed to Garcias fingers. This leads to only one of two possible reasons why Trump said this: he is either one of the dimmest bulbs to ever inhabit the Presidency, or he knowingly and repeatedly lied, and in an incredibly stupid and dangerous way.

Which one of those options do you think it is, Markk?

That’s not being ‘open’ with the people. That’s being a sh*tty liar.

A person literally cannot believe what Trump says about nearly everything. If you think that I’m being unfair with that opinion, feel free to post any paragraph you can dig up from his interviews or social media, and we’ll fact- check it. The chances of truthful content will be shockingly small.
Yes, people that came here illegally are being deported because they broke the law and did not follow the laws as dictated in the constitution and USC.
As family members of your employee did, and possibly the employee himself, given that you can’t verify his timeline. I hope that he doesn’t have tattoos.
And know I have not turned in illegal workers that work in my company, or in my neighborhood, city or state. And one more time, my two friends that I work with did exactly what they are supposed to do, they applied for citizenship per the Laws, …
You’ve hired a person who was sponsored by an illegal entrant. Why should your non-citizen employee remain? Why are you protecting people who broke the law? Why did you hire them in the first place? You couldn’t find any Americans to do the job?

Reality works differently than the BS that folks like Bondi, Leavitt and Trump try to snow you with, doesn’t it?
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Re: Trump is not a fascist

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It is amazing how so many full grown adults have enslaved their minds to a lying fraud and incompetent idiot like Trump. I really don't understand how this is possible.
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Just look at this absolute scheiße in CNN's headlines.
The change comes after Waltz’s role in the administration’s Signal fiasco. Trump says he’ll nominate him to serve as UN ambassador instead.
Somebody step on my head.
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I still can't read CNN articles at least for the time being. Here's another headline worth noting.

President Trump orders Corporation for Public Broadcasting to end federal funding for NPR and PBS


Is signing executive order's the only thing this guy has done in 100 days? Him and his little executive order dog and pony show, the absolute freak.

When I view the front page headlines on CNN (and if I didn't know better) I'd swear I was looking at a parody website.

But it's not The Onion. It's real. We've crashed through the Looking Glass and this is our reality now.

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Re: Trump is not a fascist

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 9:16 am
I still can't read CNN articles at least for the time being. Here's another headline worth noting.

President Trump orders Corporation for Public Broadcasting to end federal funding for NPR and PBS


Is signing executive order's the only thing this guy has done in 100 days? Him and his little executive order dog and pony show, the absolute freak.

When I view the front page headlines on CNN (and if I didn't know better) I'd swear I was looking at a parody website.

But it's not The Onion. It's real. We've crashed through the Looking Glass and this is our reality now.

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Do you know why funding is being withdrawn? As and example, according to a former writer for NPR, an award winning investigative journalist, of the editors at NPR DC headquarters, what was the ratio of Democrats vs Republicans according to their voter registration cards? Congress questioned the CEO of NPR, there are clips all over ytube, take a look and let me know what you think, keeping in mind that NPR is given millions of dollars with the understanding they are an unbiased organization


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Re: Trump is not a fascist

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Cakes: What’s his plan, Markk? (I’m surprised that you haven’t figured out yet why I’m asking this) : )
I have given you multiple examples of his plan. If you some sort of cryptic plan I am unaware of and need to figure out out please elaborate on this plan?
Cakes;
I think that if you look at the initial imposition of them on Canada and Mexico, you could argue that they were an attempt to do that. But they’ve just turned into a shyteshow at this time, and the Administration really doesn’t know what it’s doing, and relying more on ‘let’s see what doesn’t backfire so that we can get [fill in undefined want] while pretending that it isn’t a hidden tax on our citizens’.
How is it a shytshow? Countries are coming to the table, the border is secure, and corporations around the world are pledging trillions of dollars in investment in and for US manufacturing?

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Another liberal leftist activist judge has ruled against him.

After 33 pages of outlining why Trump and his cult enablers are wrong:
The Proclamation makes no reference to and in no manner suggests that a threat exists of an organized, armed group of individuals entering the United States at the direction of Venezuela to conquer the country or assume control over a portion of the nation. Thus, the Proclamation’s language cannot be read as describing conduct that falls within the meaning of ‘invasion’ for purposes of the AEA.

[…]

For these reasons, the Court concludes that the President’s invocation of the AEA through the Proclamation exceeds the scope of the statute and, as a result, is unlawful.
(Emphasis mine.)

For those keeping score at home, judges appointed by every President, going back to Reagan, have ruled against Trump. Including judges that Trump himself appointed, like the liberal leftist activist judge that issued this opinion.

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Re: Trump is not a fascist

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Markk wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 12:44 pm
What’s his plan, Markk? (I’m surprised that you haven’t figured out yet why I’m asking this) : )
I have given you multiple examples of his plan. If you some sort of cryptic plan I am unaware of and need to figure out out please elaborate on this plan?
Actions are not plans. I’m not even sure that they’re concepts of a plan. You’re just telling me that Tump has done X or Y and that this constitutes a plan for Z.
How (are the tariffs) a shytshow? Countries are coming to the table, the border is secure, and corporations around the world are pledging trillions of dollars in investment in and for US manufacturing?
Markk, I don’t think that drug companies, as example, make infrastructure investments worth billions of dollars based on 145% tariff increases levied on China or upending our trade with Canada two weeks ago. These are decisions that take months or years of planning. Some of the companies making additional investments into existing infrastructure even state that the decisions are related to the 2017 tax overhaul.

That said, what’s up with avoiding the earlier question about how you’d react if ICE shows up to toss your non-citizen employees into the Deportation Fun Bus?
Why are you hiring non-citizens?
Why are you protecting people who broke the law?
Why did you hire them in the first place? You couldn’t find any Americans to do the job?
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canpakes wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:59 pm
Actions are not plans. I’m not even sure that they’re concepts of a plan. You’re just telling me that Tump has done X or Y and that this constitutes a plan for Z.
To the Kool-Aid drinkers "he planned to make it up as he goes along" counts as a plan. Checkmate, smarty-pants.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri May 02, 2025 4:10 pm
Another liberal leftist activist judge has ruled against him.

After 33 pages of outlining why Trump and his cult enablers are wrong:
The Proclamation makes no reference to and in no manner suggests that a threat exists of an organized, armed group of individuals entering the United States at the direction of Venezuela to conquer the country or assume control over a portion of the nation. Thus, the Proclamation’s language cannot be read as describing conduct that falls within the meaning of ‘invasion’ for purposes of the AEA.

[…]

For these reasons, the Court concludes that the President’s invocation of the AEA through the Proclamation exceeds the scope of the statute and, as a result, is unlawful.
(Emphasis mine.)

For those keeping score at home, judges appointed by every President, going back to Reagan, have ruled against Trump. Including judges that Trump himself appointed, like the liberal leftist activist judge that issued this opinion.

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Not exactly keeping score but following it. Thank you. Maybe Markk can file the appeals and argue against the rulings in court. That'd be fun.
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