Kavanaugh and Perjury

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ajax18 wrote:
You have to admit its a possibility. And no investigation will be able to "conclude" anything in a he said-she said, 35 year-old allegation.


especially when it appears they were all under the influence at the time


I have to give you that much. That all were intoxicated at the time does not speak well for either accusers or accused.
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So putting aside questions of who is right or wrong here, I'm starting to see a fair bit of buzz from right leaning sources that if the GOP and Kavanaugh are serious about getting him on the bench they should conduct the FBI investigation. It's being put forward as a way to call Democrats bluff, clear the air for Kavanaugh, and remove the taint of any of his decisions on women's issues if he were put on the court.
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Trump has over a dozen women who accused him of sexual assault. They have independently described a pattern of behavior that matches what affair partners he paid hush money described. On top of that there is the small matter of a tape of Trump bragging about sexually forcing himself on women.

If you are picking Clinton over Trump, you aren't picking someone accused of assault over someone who hasn't been.

I, for one, would not support Clinton on the Supreme Court.
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Gunnar wrote:I have to give you that much. That all were intoxicated at the time does not speak well for either accusers or accused.

Why Gunnar? Does consuming alcohol invalidate a person's credibility? Does it invalidate the claimed trauma of an attempted rape?

Alcohol can mess with a person's memory of the details of an experience, but it doesn't generally create entire experiences out of whole cloth.

ETA: The other variable here is the amount of alcohol consumed. We don't know how drunk she was. A person doesn't start making up memories in their head the moment they take a sip of beer.
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Wouldn't our world be better without alcohol?
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DoubtingThomas wrote:Wouldn't our world be better without alcohol?

You clearly have never enjoyed a good IPA.
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Some Schmo wrote:
DoubtingThomas wrote:Wouldn't our world be better without alcohol?

You clearly have never enjoyed a good IPA.


Nope, and probably never will.
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Xenophon wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:What's my confusion? I'm seeing comments on sltrib's articles covering the story outright calling Kavanaugh a rapist.

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Not your confusion, confusion from the general public. It probably would have been clearer if I had linked to my original comments.


Oh! I think that was a spot on observation. Thanks for providing context.

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Some Schmo wrote:You clearly have never enjoyed a good IPA.

Nope, and probably never will.

Meh... you're probably better off. Still, I love me a few IPAs on the weekend.

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Gunnar wrote:
ajax18 wrote:especially when it appears they were all under the influence at the time


I have to give you that much. That all were intoxicated at the time does not speak well for either accusers or accused.


That's victim blaming. Why do you hate women?

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