“So often, the president would say here’s what I want to do and here’s how I want to do it and I would have to say to him, Mr. President I understand what you want to do but you can’t do it that way,” Tillerson explained. “It violates the law.” ... Tillerson was forced to resign in the spring of 2018. At several points in his tenure, reports of his criticisms of the president frequently reached the press, including one instance where he called Trump a “f—ing moron.”
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
Icarus wrote:Tillerson was forced to resign in the spring of 2018. At several points in his tenure, reports of his criticisms of the president frequently reached the press, including one instance where he called Trump a “f—ing moron.”
I kind of think that every time anyone talks about the President, they should start with, "Keeping in mind that Trump is a damned moron..."
This way, everything that follows will make more sense. Context matters. Besides, I'm really sick of people talking about him as though he's a mature, functioning adult. Simply talking about him in regular terms is a deceitful damned lie.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
So what, subby? How does the fact (if true) that none of Trump's accusers have committed suicide in any way weaken the still exponentially growing strength of the case for concluding that Trump is a Moron? Talk about grasping at straws!
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Gunnar wrote:So what, subby? How does the fact (if true) that none of Trump's accusers have committed suicide in any way weaken the still exponentially growing strength of the case for concluding that Trump is a Moron? Talk about grasping at straws!
He's claiming that Vince Foster was killed by the Clinton's because his both a troll and an idiot.
When Sondland said he was anxious to testify to Congress I suspected he was a Trump pawn and would lie. He did, after all, get his position only because he gave Trump $1 million prior to his inauguration.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
Mulanvey has updated the Whitehouse position to, “Yeah we did it. So what? Screw you.” If people adopting prior defenses had integrity, which they do not, this might be embarrassing for them.
Icarus wrote:When Sondland said he was anxious to testify to Congress I suspected he was a Trump pawn and would lie. He did, after all, get his position only because he gave Trump $1 million prior to his inauguration.
On May 1, the New York Times reported on questions about Hunter Biden’s work in Ukraine and noted, “The Trump team’s efforts to draw attention to the Bidens’ work in Ukraine … has been led partly by Rudolph W. Giuliani.”
By May 7, Bloomberg News cast doubt on a central premise of the Times’s reporting: that then-Vice President Joe Biden’s efforts to push out Ukraine’s top prosecutor could be viewed as benefiting his son’s company.
On May 9, Giuliani told the Times that he was traveling to Ukraine to explicitly push for two specific investigations: one involving the origins of the 2016 Russia investigation, and the other involving the Bidens. (These are the same ones that would come up on Trump’s July 25 call with Zelensky.) And Giuliani was upfront about the political nature of his trip. “There’s nothing illegal about it,” he said. “Somebody could say it’s improper. … I’m going to give them reasons they shouldn’t stop [investigating], because that information will be very, very helpful to my client and may turn out to be helpful to my government.”
On May 11, Giuliani canceled the trip amid an outcry.
On May 19, Trump explicitly pointed to potential wrongdoing by the Bidens. “Biden — he calls them and says, ‘Don’t you dare persecute, if you don’t fire this prosecutor’ — the prosecutor was after his son,” Trump said. “Then he said, ‘If you fire the prosecutor, you’ll be okay. And if you don’t fire the prosecutor, 'We’re not giving you $2 billion in loan guarantees,’ or whatever he was supposed to give. Can you imagine if I did that?”
So according to Sondland, despite all of that, as of May 23 he “did not understand … that Mr. Giuliani’s agenda might have also included an effort to prompt the Ukrainians to investigate Vice President Biden or his son.” He even says Giuliani mentioned the Ukrainian company that employed Hunter Biden, Burisma Holdings, in August, but “I did not know until more recent press reports that Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma.”
All I can say to that is
I suppose I should just be happy that some people are starting to turn but I'm also not looking for the likely scenario that if Trump goes down his previous supporters will act shocked at the corruption and pretend they were always against it.
"If you consider what are called the virtues in mankind, you will find their growth is assisted by education and cultivation." -Xenophon of Athens
